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p.52 #1Canon EOS 7D Master thread
What happens if apply some NR at ISO 12,800? Ran them quickly through NoiseWare. The file is likely usable for small prints. The blotching in smooth areas is a problem but at least it doesn't have pattern noise.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p730498161-4.jpg
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Sep 15, 2009 at 04:54 PM
p.52 #2Canon EOS 7D Master thread
abqnmusa wrote:
Those 12800 examples are all a noisy mess at 12800. But that is not a realistic ISO on any camera.
if the 7D produced clean images at 800, 1600, 3200 that would be a huge improvement
over other 1.6 bodies. Even just usable 800 and 1600 would be great.
Got back a page and take a look at the matrix I put together.
Those 12800 examples are all a noisy mess at 12800. But that is not a realistic ISO on any camera.
if the 7D produced clean images at 800, 1600, 3200 that would be a huge improvement
over other 1.6 bodies. Even just usable 800 and 1600 would be great.
Got back a page and take a look at the matrix I put together.
Sep 15, 2009 at 04:59 PM
p.52 #4Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Yeah I ran it through Nik Define, it's usable for small prints. It's pretty impressive for a crop camera.
thedigitalbean wrote:
What happens if apply some NR at ISO 12,800? Ran them quickly through NoiseWare. The file is likely usable for small prints. The blotching in smooth areas is a problem but at least it doesn't have pattern noise.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p730498161-4.jpg
thedigitalbean wrote:
What happens if apply some NR at ISO 12,800? Ran them quickly through NoiseWare. The file is likely usable for small prints. The blotching in smooth areas is a problem but at least it doesn't have pattern noise.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v2/p730498161-4.jpg
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:03 PM
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p.52 #5Canon EOS 7D Master thread
thedigitalbean wrote:
I have put together a camera/ISO matrix...
All other cameras were resized (up or down) to the 7D's size to keep the comparison fair.
Aah! Music to my ears.
Thanks and well done. EDIT: oh - page is locked
Edited on Sep 15, 2009 at 05:11 PM · View previous versions
I have put together a camera/ISO matrix...
All other cameras were resized (up or down) to the 7D's size to keep the comparison fair.
Aah! Music to my ears.
Thanks and well done. EDIT: oh - page is locked
Edited on Sep 15, 2009 at 05:11 PM · View previous versions
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:08 PM
p.52 #6Canon EOS 7D Master thread
thedigitalbean wrote:
Got back a page and take a look at the matrix I put together.
Your site is locked.
Got back a page and take a look at the matrix I put together.
Your site is locked.
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:10 PM
p.52 #8Canon EOS 7D Master thread
thedigitalbean wrote:
Sorry about that, should be fixed now.
Still locked... did you go to Acess Control under your profile?
Sorry about that, should be fixed now.
Still locked... did you go to Acess Control under your profile?
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:36 PM
p.52 #10Canon EOS 7D Master thread
John McLean wrote:
Still locked... did you go to Acess Control under your profile?
Yep, I turned on allow original downloads on those files. Let me double check.
thedigitalbean wrote
Sorry about that, should be fixed now.Yep, I turned on allow original downloads on those files. Let me double check.
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:39 PM
p.52 #11Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Just tried Firefox instead of Safari and it works... ?
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:41 PM
p.52 #12Canon EOS 7D Master thread
John McLean wrote:
Just tried Firefox instead of Safari and it works... ?
Some browser page caching issue?
Just tried Firefox instead of Safari and it works... ?
Some browser page caching issue?
Sep 15, 2009 at 05:42 PM
p.52 #14Canon EOS 7D Master thread
paulfeng wrote:
<snip>Keith, thanks for pointing this out. I had seen this webpage before, but somehow did not notice the wealth of info available in the "Technical" portion.
For any of you who have not looked at this yet, there is even more information than usually seen in a "white paper," and furthermore, there is discussion of some of the reasoning behind the design choices made. In some places, there are discussions of tradeoffs, such as 'if you choose spot focusing, this other aspect of AF performance takes a hit' and in other places, along the lines of 'we didn't go with this...Show more →
Agreed a good resource.
This may only apply to Europe, but it states that one of the kits available will include the 15-85 IS. Hope that comes to North America as well.
keithreeder wrote
From http://www.canon-europe.com/cpn_eos7d/ ("Technical" tag, page 6):<snip>
For any of you who have not looked at this yet, there is even more information than usually seen in a "white paper," and furthermore, there is discussion of some of the reasoning behind the design choices made. In some places, there are discussions of tradeoffs, such as 'if you choose spot focusing, this other aspect of AF performance takes a hit' and in other places, along the lines of 'we didn't go with this...Show more →
Agreed a good resource.
This may only apply to Europe, but it states that one of the kits available will include the 15-85 IS. Hope that comes to North America as well.
Sep 15, 2009 at 06:02 PM
p.52 #15Canon EOS 7D Master thread
brainiac wrote:
All other cameras were resized (up or down) to the 7D's size to keep the comparison fair.Aah! Music to my ears.
Thanks and well done. EDIT: oh - page is locked
I read that and thought, "God, that's going to warm brainiac's heart!"
thedigitalbean wrote
I have put together a camera/ISO matrix...All other cameras were resized (up or down) to the 7D's size to keep the comparison fair.
Thanks and well done. EDIT: oh - page is locked
I read that and thought, "God, that's going to warm brainiac's heart!"
Sep 15, 2009 at 08:05 PM
p.52 #16Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Amazon is taking pre-orders again for the 7D body only and kit.
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Sep 15, 2009 at 08:48 PM
p.52 #17Canon EOS 7D Master thread
thedigitalbean wrote:
ISO 12,800 comparison for the Canon cameras. Forgot to mention that in all of these LR's noise reduction was set to 0 (for both lum. and color) and all sharpening set to 0.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743.jpg
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743-3.jpg
Though the 7D contains more noise, it doesn't have the kind of pattern noise that both the 5D2 and the 50D does.
Thanks for posting this. This pretty much seals my opinion to wait for the 1D3 replacement.
ISO 12,800 comparison for the Canon cameras. Forgot to mention that in all of these LR's noise reduction was set to 0 (for both lum. and color) and all sharpening set to 0.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743.jpg
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743-3.jpg
Though the 7D contains more noise, it doesn't have the kind of pattern noise that both the 5D2 and the 50D does.
Thanks for posting this. This pretty much seals my opinion to wait for the 1D3 replacement.
Sep 15, 2009 at 08:57 PM
p.52 #18Canon EOS 7D Master thread
Sorry the 50D image is by far the worst, completely useless at that ISO, the 7D is much better, but still bad. However, the 7D shot is slightly underexposed compared to the other 2 IMO; the white label on the bottle is more grey on the 7D shot. Probably 1/4 stop under the 5D II and 1/3-1/2 under the 50D.
Sep 15, 2009 at 09:11 PM
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p.52 #19Canon EOS 7D Master thread
thedigitalbean wrote:
ISO 12,800 comparison for the Canon cameras. Forgot to mention that in all of these LR's noise reduction was set to 0 (for both lum. and color) and all sharpening set to 0.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743.jpg
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743-3.jpg
Though the 7D contains more noise, it doesn't have the kind of pattern noise that both the 5D2 and the 50D does.
It looks awesome for an APS-C. May have to add it to shopping list...
It's such a shame they crippled the 5D2 like this. If an APS-C camera can match it 9 months later, they really dropped the ball.
ISO 12,800 comparison for the Canon cameras. Forgot to mention that in all of these LR's noise reduction was set to 0 (for both lum. and color) and all sharpening set to 0.
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743.jpg
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743-3.jpg
Though the 7D contains more noise, it doesn't have the kind of pattern noise that both the 5D2 and the 50D does.
It looks awesome for an APS-C. May have to add it to shopping list...
It's such a shame they crippled the 5D2 like this. If an APS-C camera can match it 9 months later, they really dropped the ball.
Sep 15, 2009 at 09:16 PM
p.52 #20Canon EOS 7D Master thread
dolina wrote:
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743.jpg
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743-3.jpg
Though the 7D contains more noise, it doesn't have the kind of pattern noise that both the 5D2 and the 50D does.Thanks for posting this. This pretty much seals my opinion to wait for the 1D3 replacement.
But remember two things. The 7D is underexposed, as noted by Pixel Perfect. And there has been no noise reduction applied. The 7D is looking pretty darn good.
If I had over $4k to spend on a 1D4 I wouldn't be excited by the 7D either. But I don't. My next camera is going to either be a 7D or a used 1D3. The 7D is looking like it's going to be a lot closer to the 1D3 than I expected, at least from an image quality standpoint. And potentially a lot more versatile.
Just hope the 7D low-light AF rocks....
Mark
thedigitalbean wrote
ISO 12,800 comparison for the Canon cameras. Forgot to mention that in all of these LR's noise reduction was set to 0 (for both lum. and color) and all sharpening set to 0.http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743.jpg
http://akimagery.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p1063258743-3.jpg
Though the 7D contains more noise, it doesn't have the kind of pattern noise that both the 5D2 and the 50D does.
But remember two things. The 7D is underexposed, as noted by Pixel Perfect. And there has been no noise reduction applied. The 7D is looking pretty darn good.
If I had over $4k to spend on a 1D4 I wouldn't be excited by the 7D either. But I don't. My next camera is going to either be a 7D or a used 1D3. The 7D is looking like it's going to be a lot closer to the 1D3 than I expected, at least from an image quality standpoint. And potentially a lot more versatile.
Just hope the 7D low-light AF rocks....
Mark
Sep 15, 2009 at 09:29 PM