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p.149 #1 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


re: 7D review at http://www.stanford.edu/~ahazeghi/Photos/EOS7DAF/

I would question his methods and if he is being realistic. Anyone who expects a non-professional camera to perform like a professional camera is not realistic. The 7D costs $1699 and the 1D Mark III new was $4500. So his expectations are unlrealistic in the review. He wants the 7D to focus like a camera that cost $2800 more. You could buy two 7D's and an $800 lens for what the 1D mark III cost new. He also compares the 7D to a D700 costing $2700, a D3 costing $5000, and a 1D mark IV costing $5000.

The Nikon D300 would be a fair comparison. Or another manufacturer camera of similar cost ($1699).

He also seems to have more problems with focus then others on this webiste, on the net, and from my experience.

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Oct 26, 2009 at 11:23 PM
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p.149 #2 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Yes, part of the equation is he's compared it with a Nikon D700 in his earlier "tests", enough said, already. I guess, everyone wants to become a Rob Galbraith these days :-)


Oct 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM
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p.149 #3 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Just Seagulls but good practice.

Some were heavy crops and some not

Example

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/large.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/small.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/L1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/_MG_2355.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/l2.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/l3.jpg

It tracked OK with a busy background but I had center point focus on it. Using it will go back and forth. You have to look for the read point.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/Picture-1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/_MG_2299.jpg



Oct 27, 2009 at 12:54 AM
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p.149 #4 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


abqnmusa wrote:
re: 7D review at http://www.stanford.edu/~ahazeghi/Photos/EOS7DAF/

I would question his methods and if he is being realistic. Anyone who expects a non-professional camera to perform like a professional camera is not realistic. The 7D costs $1699 and the 1D Mark III new was $4500. So his expectations are unlrealistic in the review. He wants the 7D to focus like a camera that cost $2800 more. You could buy two 7D's and an $800 lens for what the 1D mark III cost new. He also compares the 7D to a D700 costing $2700, a D3 costing $5000, and a 1D mark IV costing
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but a lot of the D700 extra cost should be in the FF sensor

if it will be worth it for tracking, over say a 50D for many hundreds less it should track close to a D700.

if not it would also mean no top tracking from canon under $5000 which is a lot more than $2700 (and does the D300S now fully match the D700 AF?)


anyway i can't comment myself since i haven't gotten to test ai servo on the 7D yet



Oct 27, 2009 at 01:06 AM
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p.149 #5 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Trouble

http://www.canon.com.au/support/customer/default.asp?DXI=KnowledgeBase/Customer/KBArticleForm&File=KB01685&productID=eos7d_body



Oct 27, 2009 at 05:10 AM
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p.149 #6 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Never heard of that. Anyone encountered it?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Oct 27, 2009 at 05:24 AM
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p.149 #7 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


I saw a post somewhere where a ghost image was reported. The photo of a bird contained a faint copy of the bird, slightly shifted. I wander if that was it.

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Oct 27, 2009 at 07:16 AM
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p.149 #8 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Daan B wrote:
Trouble


Oh yeah - after all, look at all the complaints we're reading about it.

Does nobody have any sense of proportion any more?

It's just a bug in a new piece of IT, for God's sake.



Oct 27, 2009 at 07:28 AM
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p.149 #9 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


gfiksel wrote:
I saw a post somewhere where a host image was reported. The photo of a bird contained a faint copy of the bird, slightly shifted. I wander if that was it.


It was a bird against a blue sky in a DPReview post. As with many things over there, it was a "sky is falling" problem that was being discussed as if it was a widespread issue.

I kind of took it with a grain of salt, just a quirky thing. I hadn't seen anyone describe the problem here on FM.

Here it is:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=33404097

Mark



Oct 27, 2009 at 08:01 AM
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p.149 #10 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


There was some mention of it and I did see an image posted. The claim is if the shutter is 1/500 or more. Out of 20 images similar to this one I could not find one.

High speed continuos - shutter 1/2000

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d74/Zenon1/_MG_2353.jpg



Oct 27, 2009 at 08:19 AM
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p.149 #11 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


msalvetti wrote:
It was a bird against a blue sky in a DPReview post. As with many things over there, it was a "sky is falling" problem that was being discussed as if it was a widespread issue.

I kind of took it with a grain of salt, just a quirky thing. I hadn't seen anyone describe the problem here on FM.

Here it is:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1019&thread=33404097


Well, if you go to the end of that thread, there is a link to Canon site that confirms the problem: http://www.canon.com.au/support/customer/default.asp?DXI=KnowledgeBase/Customer/KBArticleForm&File=KB01685&productID=eos7d_body



Oct 27, 2009 at 08:32 AM
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p.149 #12 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Hadn't seen that. The size of this thread not withstanding, I usually lose interest in DPReview threads long before the end.

Mark



Oct 27, 2009 at 08:40 AM
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p.149 #13 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


keithreeder wrote:
Oh yeah - after all, look at all the complaints we're reading about it.

Does nobody have any sense of proportion any more?

It's just a bug in a new piece of IT, for God's sake.


Still a little touchy on the subject, heh?



Oct 27, 2009 at 08:46 AM
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p.149 #14 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Zenon Char,

nice seagull pics

Not many Seagulls here in land locked NM.

I posted some new birds pics in Nature and Wildlife

Birds along the Bosque trail in Albuquerque NM




Oct 27, 2009 at 08:54 AM
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p.149 #15 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


abqnmusa wrote:
Zenon Char,

nice seagull pics

Not many Seagulls here in land locked NM.

I posted some new birds pics in Nature and Wildlife

Birds along the Bosque trail in Albuquerque NM



Nice captures



Oct 27, 2009 at 09:04 AM
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p.149 #16 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


ejmartin wrote:
4) load both images into Photoshop and overlay one on top of the other; set the blending mode to difference. Make a levels adjustment layer and bring the difference image up a few stops to look for any patterns (it's the difference image, so it should have been black if the two conversions agreed with one another). You'll want to try both layer orderings (4-color either above or below 3-color) since a priori one doesn't know which if either might be brighter if there's a channel imbalance.

The mazing is directly the result of the green channel imbalance; with 3-color mode,
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Emil,

I've done as you indicated. All I get is a completely black image both when i overlay three-color on four or four-color on three. Does this indicate that there is no green channel imbalance?



Oct 27, 2009 at 10:26 AM
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p.149 #17 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


The Canon article says "under certain conditions".

This could mean anything: sensor overheating, bad batch, buggy firmware.




Oct 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM
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p.149 #18 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


Well add...paranoid user..paranoid future user ...etc etc...

ciprian.trofin wrote:
This could mean anything: sensor overheating, bad batch, buggy firmware.





Oct 27, 2009 at 10:56 AM
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ejmartin wrote:
4) load both images into Photoshop and overlay one on top of the other; set the blending mode to difference. Make a levels adjustment layer and bring the difference image up a few stops to look for any patterns (it's the difference image, so it should have been black if the two conversions agreed with one another). You'll want to try both layer orderings (4-color either above or below 3-color) since a priori one doesn't know which if either might be brighter if there's a channel imbalance.

The mazing is directly the result of the green channel imbalance; with 3-color mode,
...Show more
Fred Tedsen wrote:
Emil,

I've done as you indicated. All I get is a completely black image both when i overlay three-color on four or four-color on three. Does this indicate that there is no green channel imbalance?


Sounds like you might be OK; did you lift the difference image several stops?

If you don't mind, could you send me the RAW file?




Oct 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM
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p.149 #20 · Canon EOS 7D Master thread


kewlcanon wrote:
Well add...paranoid user..paranoid future user ...etc etc...


What does that have to do with an acknowledged phenomenon

Or is Canon paranoid too



Oct 27, 2009 at 01:11 PM
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