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Steve Spencer wrote:
Actually cognitive dissonance theory would predict that in this situation people would come to love their cameras and not become disappointed with them. The theory suggests we come to overvalue whatever we buy (or choose) and we do so more when the thing we bought wasn't worth what we paid for it. This may seem far fetched, but it actually helps explain why almost everyone (myself included) rates their gear so highly and generally is very attached to it.


It seems to me that psychologists continues to discover what the Buddhists have know for a very long time. Now we have articles on how gratitude can increase satisfaction and happiness. Something a Buddhist or Jesuit monk could explain in the tenth century.

Anyway, sometimes we don't appreciate the fantastic technology we have in camera equipment. Reading the web I could swear the autofocus is getting progressively worse. I guess we need to keep our consumer economy going.



Sep 04, 2009 at 10:58 AM
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Really Buddhists and Jesuits suggested that after we buy something we come to like it more because of it deficiencies. I hadn't realized that and I don't think it was something they ever said. Psychology is full of surprising findings and some not so surprising findings, and some (even many findings) seem so easily predicted after the fact, but not before the outcome is known. Here are just a couple of examples from cognitive dissonance theory. Will we like a boring activity more if we are paid a lot to do it or if we are grossly underpaid for doing it? Will we be more satisfied with our decision after making it if we choose between two closely valued products or between two products in which one is clearly better than the other?

Anyway I am not denying that people don't appreciate cameras--there are times that is true as well--but cognitive dissonance won't explain those times and we will have to look to an explanation elsewhere perhaps the Budhists and Jesuits have some ideas that will help. I suspect they do.



Sep 04, 2009 at 09:47 PM
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In the next year or two, I'm sure the new metering system will be in all their higher end cameras, DSLR & P&S.




Sep 06, 2009 at 06:22 AM
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jamesf99 wrote:
The term he used was "pass". A FF sensor requires two, and the second mask must be aligned to the first which is more difficult, but has been done for at least 8 years now. APS_H only requires a single pass


Actually, I believe that Canon has single pass FF production capability now.

Sony had it before them, which might account for the pricing and ("sudden") availability of the D3/D700.



Sep 06, 2009 at 07:58 AM
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Steve Spencer wrote:
To me it is simple. The 7D shows that Canon wants to compete with the Nikon D300s


I really doubt that, Steve - the 7D would have been a done deal in Canon's plans three or more years back, long before the D300s appeared.



Sep 06, 2009 at 08:04 AM
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Hmmm, so "The 7d is superior in all features relative to the 5d2 (excluding sensor size)" is it?

If the 7d consistently produces better IQ than the 5D2 then I will eat my hat. You can quote me on this.



Sep 06, 2009 at 09:09 AM
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skibum5 wrote:
well since i couldnt imagine them suddenly doing away with somehting they had already done i thought maybe you hadn't realized they had done it yet


Perhaps I should have stressed 'any format'. This would be interesting if Canon were to implement gapless micro lenses in a APS-H or FF sensor to possibly further increase high ISO performance. I don't know if this is doable or if the new technology actually works as expected but it is something I've wondered about.



Sep 06, 2009 at 09:37 AM
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M Vers wrote:
Perhaps I should have stressed 'any format'. This would be interesting if Canon were to implement gapless micro lenses in a APS-H or FF sensor to possibly further increase high ISO performance. I don't know if this is doable or if the new technology actually works as expected but it is something I've wondered about.


Diode size is probably more important than 100% coverage. I expect the outer edge of the microlens contributes a very small percentage of photons. I though I saw that the 7D diodes were relatively bigger than previous 1.6 crop semsors.



Sep 06, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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David Baldwin wrote:
Hmmm, so "The 7d is superior in all features relative to the 5d2 (excluding sensor size)" is it?

If the 7d consistently produces better IQ than the 5D2 then I will eat my hat. You can quote me on this.


I think your hat is safe for now .
It is unrealistic to expect that the 7D will produce better IQ than the 5DII.

How about comparable IQ at low ISOs for $1K less?
Not a bad deal for those unwilling to spend the extra $1K, IMO.



Sep 06, 2009 at 01:17 PM
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jorkata wrote:
I think your hat is safe for now .
It is unrealistic to expect that the 7D will produce better IQ than the 5DII.


Yep, that's likely true - at higher ISOs anyway - and depending on use, of course.

How about comparable IQ at low ISOs for $1K less?
Not a bad deal for those unwilling to spend the extra $1K, IMO.


Not to mention the likelihood of IQ at least as good as or better than any other comparable camera at any ISO.



Sep 06, 2009 at 01:25 PM
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dcmiller wrote:
I though I saw that the 7D diodes were relatively bigger than previous 1.6 crop sensors.


I've seen references that the photodiodes have been made more sensitive and bigger.

For instance, from here:

It seems that the the diodes themselves are also more sensitive to light. This could of course lead to problems with not being able to get to ISO 100 (if a diode is more sensitive, it's harder to get the lower ISO speeds) but to counter this, the diodes have been made larger so the gradation steps are finer.





Sep 06, 2009 at 06:11 PM
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jamesf99 wrote:
The term he used was "pass". A FF sensor requires two, and the second mask must be aligned to the first which is more difficult, but has been done for at least 8 years now. APS_H only requires a single pass


10X

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Sep 07, 2009 at 03:13 AM
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