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Archive 2009Official 7D Thread
p.2 #1Official 7D Thread
roanjohnnyc wrote:
High ISO looks good....
The high ISO shots from the 50D beta that were going around upon it's release looked very good as well, and by very good I mean better than the 40D. This was proven to be not the case.
High ISO looks good....
The high ISO shots from the 50D beta that were going around upon it's release looked very good as well, and by very good I mean better than the 40D. This was proven to be not the case.
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:23 PM
p.2 #2Official 7D Thread
Hmmm......... 5DMKII high ISO shots are still leap and bounds better than the 7D (based on my untrained eyes).
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:25 PM
p.2 #3Official 7D Thread
For people in this thread and not the other:
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239-10240
Prices and ship dates
The Canon EOS 7D and other new products are slated to ship to dealers in the U.S. on the following schedule and at the following expected street prices:
* Canon EOS 7D: late September 2009, US$1699
* Canon EOS 7D + EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS kit: late September 2009, US$1899
* Canon Battery Grip BG-E7: late September 2009, US$270 (suggested retail price, street price may be less)
* Canon Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E5A: early November 2009, US$699.99
* Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS: late September 2009, US$1049
* Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: late October 2009, US$799.99
* Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: late September 2009, US$499.99
We have the following information for Canada so far:
* Canon EOS 7D: CDN$2099.99 (suggested retail price)
* Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS: late September 2009, CDN$1299 (suggested retail price)
* Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: CDN$999.99 (suggested retail price)
* Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: CDN$599.99 (suggested retail price)
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=7-10042-10239-10240
Prices and ship dates
The Canon EOS 7D and other new products are slated to ship to dealers in the U.S. on the following schedule and at the following expected street prices:
* Canon EOS 7D: late September 2009, US$1699
* Canon EOS 7D + EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS kit: late September 2009, US$1899
* Canon Battery Grip BG-E7: late September 2009, US$270 (suggested retail price, street price may be less)
* Canon Wireless File Transmitter WFT-E5A: early November 2009, US$699.99
* Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS: late September 2009, US$1049
* Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: late October 2009, US$799.99
* Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: late September 2009, US$499.99
We have the following information for Canada so far:
* Canon EOS 7D: CDN$2099.99 (suggested retail price)
* Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS: late September 2009, CDN$1299 (suggested retail price)
* Canon EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: CDN$999.99 (suggested retail price)
* Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS: CDN$599.99 (suggested retail price)
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:27 PM
p.2 #4Official 7D Thread
Man I just ordered a 50D now I am thinking because the 7 is a lot less money than I was expecting I may just send it back. Get a store credit then wait for one of these. Suggested price is $1699 so I am sure we can knock off a hundred or two
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:28 PM
p.2 #5Official 7D Thread
I'm liking the new design. I only wish many of these features would have been in the 5DmkII.
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:32 PM
p.2 #6Official 7D Thread
roanjohnnyc wrote:
Hmmm......... 5DMKII high ISO shots are still leap and bounds better than the 7D (based on my untrained eyes).
well you shouldnt compare a FF to a crop anyway ...real silly assertion
you should be comparing the Nikon d300s to the 7d...
never fails everyone wants to compare apples to oranges
Hmmm......... 5DMKII high ISO shots are still leap and bounds better than the 7D (based on my untrained eyes).
well you shouldnt compare a FF to a crop anyway ...real silly assertion
you should be comparing the Nikon d300s to the 7d...
never fails everyone wants to compare apples to oranges
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:37 PM
p.2 #7Official 7D Thread
"New Flash and Wireless Flash Control. The 7D is the first Canon EOS to come with an Integrated Speedlite Transmitter. The system allows to control up to three groups of four flashes each. With 15mm the built-in flash features wider flash coverage than previous models. Its guide number is 12/39 (ISO 100, in meters/feet)."
VERY interesting...and equally as awesome.
Edited on Aug 31, 2009 at 10:39 PM · View previous versions
VERY interesting...and equally as awesome.
Edited on Aug 31, 2009 at 10:39 PM · View previous versions
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:38 PM
p.2 #8Official 7D Thread
Soooo glad I held off on buying a 5D2. This camera can do even more and the 3mp drop means nothing to me! Woohoo!
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:39 PM
p.2 #10Official 7D Thread
Holy cow that price is low! Wow wow wow I'm so lusting right now. I was sure it would be closer to the 300s territory at $2k.
Same goes for the 100mm L, great pricing Canon! hit the mark perfectly!
Same goes for the 100mm L, great pricing Canon! hit the mark perfectly!
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:40 PM
p.2 #11Official 7D Thread
roanjohnnyc wrote:
Hmmm......... 5DMKII high ISO shots are still leap and bounds better than the 7D (based on my untrained eyes).
This was almost given...
Hmmm......... 5DMKII high ISO shots are still leap and bounds better than the 7D (based on my untrained eyes).
This was almost given...
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:43 PM
p.2 #12Official 7D Thread
M Vers wrote:
"New Flash and Wireless Flash Control. The 7D is the first Canon EOS to come with an Integrated Speedlite Transmitter. The system allows to control up to three groups of four flashes each. With 15mm the built-in flash features wider flash coverage than previous models. Its guide number is 12/39 (ISO 100, in meters/feet)."
VERY interesting...and equally as awesome.
Yes- this was the one of the things I loved about Nikon CLS, and finally we can have that!
"New Flash and Wireless Flash Control. The 7D is the first Canon EOS to come with an Integrated Speedlite Transmitter. The system allows to control up to three groups of four flashes each. With 15mm the built-in flash features wider flash coverage than previous models. Its guide number is 12/39 (ISO 100, in meters/feet)."
VERY interesting...and equally as awesome.
Yes- this was the one of the things I loved about Nikon CLS, and finally we can have that!
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:44 PM
p.2 #13Official 7D Thread
orangefirefish wrote:
VERY interesting...and equally as awesome.Yes- this was the one of the things I loved about Nikon CLS, and finally we can have that!
Yup, this is great. Also we now have a 1.6x crop with pro AF and a 100mm macro lens with VR/IS All thats left is the 200-400, come on Canon... please.... pretty please...
M Vers wrote
"New Flash and Wireless Flash Control. The 7D is the first Canon EOS to come with an Integrated Speedlite Transmitter. The system allows to control up to three groups of four flashes each. With 15mm the built-in flash features wider flash coverage than previous models. Its guide number is 12/39 (ISO 100, in meters/feet)."VERY interesting...and equally as awesome.
Yup, this is great. Also we now have a 1.6x crop with pro AF and a 100mm macro lens with VR/IS All thats left is the 200-400, come on Canon... please.... pretty please...
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:47 PM
p.2 #14Official 7D Thread
Considering the 1D3 doesnt really have much of an advantage over the 7D, I'm sure a 1D4 is around the corner very shortly. Besides build and maybe a better AF system (all depends on how good this 19af 7D is, honestly, most 1D owners are not using all 45 points anyway), I don't think the 1D3 has much to hold on it. I'm hoping the 1D4 is stellar.
7D at 18mp, I hope the 1D4 is atleast 18 as well.
7D at 18mp, I hope the 1D4 is atleast 18 as well.
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:49 PM
p.2 #15Official 7D Thread
sounding pretty impressive, looks like canon is back!
A little jealous that they did kinda cheap the 5D2 and not use the new AF system, with the point being even more relative clusted together on the 5D2 I bet you can pinpoint on a distant player better than with the new 7D, although I bet the 7D calculates focus a lot better.
and i bet the new ADC's would've given it D3x-like ISO100
oh well.
one thing though, full sealing and this and that.... for $1600 final proves once, combined with the 5D2, and for all that the !ds line has been crazy overpriced. Maybe in 2-3 years we see a 3D/5D3 with 24MP and all the works, but maybe 6 not 8fps.
Anyway, the specs sound pretty damn impressive, I think this should definitely shoot past the bow of the D300s.... and cost less!
Assuming things work out as it sounds they will, Canon has, in every respect, taken over the APS-C lead.
One thing I realized though about pixel density, video is where it gets hurt. They dont have enough speed yet to bin video (hmm, wow dual-digic maybe they can do some binning now for video....
) and have been just doing single pixel reads, so these super high desnity sensors will likely suffer a lot more from video noise than if they made them lower density. I would guess the 5D2 video will handily look less noisy than the 7D's (unless dual-digic allow time for some binning). The D300s video may be less noisy at high iso too.
anyway back to more reading the hands on preview
A little jealous that they did kinda cheap the 5D2 and not use the new AF system, with the point being even more relative clusted together on the 5D2 I bet you can pinpoint on a distant player better than with the new 7D, although I bet the 7D calculates focus a lot better.
and i bet the new ADC's would've given it D3x-like ISO100
oh well.
one thing though, full sealing and this and that.... for $1600 final proves once, combined with the 5D2, and for all that the !ds line has been crazy overpriced. Maybe in 2-3 years we see a 3D/5D3 with 24MP and all the works, but maybe 6 not 8fps.
Anyway, the specs sound pretty damn impressive, I think this should definitely shoot past the bow of the D300s.... and cost less!
Assuming things work out as it sounds they will, Canon has, in every respect, taken over the APS-C lead.
One thing I realized though about pixel density, video is where it gets hurt. They dont have enough speed yet to bin video (hmm, wow dual-digic maybe they can do some binning now for video....
) and have been just doing single pixel reads, so these super high desnity sensors will likely suffer a lot more from video noise than if they made them lower density. I would guess the 5D2 video will handily look less noisy than the 7D's (unless dual-digic allow time for some binning). The D300s video may be less noisy at high iso too.anyway back to more reading the hands on preview
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:50 PM
p.2 #16Official 7D Thread
sboerup wrote:
Considering the 1D3 doesnt really have much of an advantage over the 7D...
How, exactly, do you arrive at that conclusion?
Considering the 1D3 doesnt really have much of an advantage over the 7D...
How, exactly, do you arrive at that conclusion?
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM
p.2 #17Official 7D Thread
hmmm I wonder if dpreview jumped the gun, all their 7D photos are gone now...
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM
p.2 #18Official 7D Thread
Looks good on paper, lets see some sample photos now.
One rumor that did not pan out is the dual card slots. I can live without them though.
One rumor that did not pan out is the dual card slots. I can live without them though.
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:52 PM
p.2 #19Official 7D Thread
alanwarp wrote:
hmmm I wonder if dpreview jumped the gun, all their 7D photos are gone now...
the hands on review seems completely in tact, aside for the sample images which weren't posted in the first place.
hmmm I wonder if dpreview jumped the gun, all their 7D photos are gone now...
the hands on review seems completely in tact, aside for the sample images which weren't posted in the first place.
Aug 31, 2009 at 10:53 PM