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mushlix
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p.1 #1 · low-light glow stick advice needed


Hi,
I'm getting prepared for some glow stick action fun next weekend. I got a box of glowsticks, a subject and an old warehouse to go shoot at. I've done glow stick trail shot before but never really managed to get a good exposition on it...Meaning I usually get a really good light trail but the subject and background usually are way dark and hardly noticable. I got myself a 580ex ii last week and was wondering if shooting a quick burst of flash before the end of my x-sec exposition would help putting some light on the subject and background with out getting blown out pictures...
Session will occur at night in a poorly lit warehouse so really low-light situation.
thx for the input
David



Aug 11, 2009 at 02:57 PM
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p.1 #2 · low-light glow stick advice needed


Yeah, you basically are dealing with two exposures. The long exposure to catch the arcs of the glow sticks through the air and a second exposure to light up the person.

The exposure of the background will likely be a function of ambient light plus flash light, adding the two together.

Put the two together and you should get something a little like this:

http://www.arielbravy.com/photoblog/images/20051207044353_rave.jpg



Aug 11, 2009 at 03:00 PM
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p.1 #3 · low-light glow stick advice needed


yup, exactly, longer exposure for the light trails and then set flash to second-curtain (rear curtain) sync to freeze subject.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_s_hVJTvqNGo/SlAOYOZz0_I/AAAAAAAAKc0/Cn_z-2Eo1BY/s800/july4_3.jpg



Aug 11, 2009 at 03:16 PM
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p.1 #4 · low-light glow stick advice needed


Another thing people have done (not for glow sticks though) is take a long exposure, and while the shutter's open, take a large flashlight and "paint" the subject. it's usually done while the subject is sitting still, but I would be curious what the outcome of something like that would be.

cmM.



Aug 11, 2009 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #5 · low-light glow stick advice needed


I love those shots of the little girl.
Really nicely done.
What a cutie.


Here is some ideas for inspiration (horrible web site, but if you dig, some of the images are pretty cool):

http://www.lapp-pro.de/


You can make the glow sticks brighter by heating them up.
Put them in boiling water for a bit.
You can microwave them, but they explode easily, so be very careful if you microwave them.






Aug 11, 2009 at 07:55 PM
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p.1 #6 · low-light glow stick advice needed


thanks Mike.

BTW, I saw more of that stuff like you linked to the other week at this site:

http://www.imakegoldrecords.com/ (click on "collections")



Aug 12, 2009 at 10:45 AM
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p.1 #7 · low-light glow stick advice needed


Can someone explain this in great detail? I am confused on how to make this work? I would love to do this with my kids, they would really love it


Aug 12, 2009 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #8 · low-light glow stick advice needed


msauk wrote:
Can someone explain this in great detail? I am confused on how to make this work? I would love to do this with my kids, they would really love it


It's fairly simple.

Step 1: Find a dark space, some kids, and some glowsticks. Oh, and you'll need a flash.

Step 2: Set your camera to second-curtain (aka rear-curtain) sync.

Step 3: Set your camera to Manual, shutter speed to somewhere around 2-4 seconds and the aperture to whatever makes the glowstick trails look good. Experiment.

Step 4: Connect the flash to your camera and, assuming you have a Canon DSLR and a Canon EX-series flash, leave it in the ETTL mode.

Step 5: Mount the camera on a tripod (optional). Handheld works as well, but your glowstick trails might get wiggly.

Step 6: Give your kids glowsticks and shoot!

Kaa



Aug 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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p.1 #9 · low-light glow stick advice needed


I usually shoot fire spinning, not glowsticks, but here's an example of a long exposure + flash:

http://www.kaax.org/images/archives/2003/01_20030605_0030_Shoulder.jpg

Another one

http://www.kaax.org/images/gallery/PDF_Oct05/Fire/01_20051008_0318_S1.jpg

Kaa



Aug 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
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p.1 #10 · low-light glow stick advice needed


awesome! Thanks


Aug 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM
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p.1 #11 · low-light glow stick advice needed


dasrocket wrote:
Nice work Kaax. I will be spending some time shooting fireplayers at burning man in a couple of weeks.


Nice. There are lot of things to shoot at BMan besides people playing with fire :-)

Don't forget some kind of water/dustproof setup for your camera.

Kaa




Aug 13, 2009 at 03:33 PM





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