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p.1 #1 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


I am ordering a Sony A900 and am curious which Raw converter those who have this camera use.

I have heard mixed reviews about ACR and how it handles the A900 Raw files. Some say Aperture is better. I have both Lightroom and Aperture but don't use them much yet in conjunction with PSCS4. I am coming from Nikon and have used Capture NX2 for my Nikon Raw files.

Also, what quick release plate do you use for the A900? I have had ones made for the specific camera I was using. I have an ArcaTech ballhead and can use any Arca-Swiss type plate. I know there is an L bracket but that is for use without the grip. I couldn't find anything else for the A900.
Do you just use a generic quick release plate?

Thanks for the help

-pint

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Jun 27, 2009 at 09:19 AM
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p.1 #2 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Look at Raw Developer or Capture One. Avoid ACR/Lightroom.


Jun 27, 2009 at 09:24 AM
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p.1 #3 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


I agree with the above overall. I have found both Raw Developer and Capture One capable of a little more detail than ACR/Lightroom. For quick editing of large jobs that do not rely on the nth degree of detail though, it is hard to avoid using Lightroom. I also find the B&W conversion tools built into Raw Developer greatly lacking compared to ACR/Lightroom. Ultimately, it depends on what you are doing with the files.


Jun 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM
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p.1 #4 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Agree. I use Raw Therapee or C1. There are some pretty cool b&w profiles for C1 that are only $20, but I can't remember the name of the site.

If you're on a mac, for maximum quality at a slow pace, try RPP



Jun 27, 2009 at 02:17 PM
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p.1 #5 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Thanks for the help. Douglas, I would be interested in the b&w profiles for C1 if you or anyone else can remember where to get them. Silver Efex Pro is one of my favorite NIK software plugins.

I am on a Mac, so I will try RPP



Jun 27, 2009 at 02:21 PM
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p.1 #6 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


RRS has the L bracket, which i got for mine. Nice piece of work, and you still can open the doors on the body.


Jun 27, 2009 at 05:47 PM
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p.1 #7 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


JFI profiles for C1 Pro are the ones I have used in the past as far as canned profiles go. They are here:

http://jfilabs.com/

I have been working on an image all day and the detail benefit that Raw Developer gives over ACR is quite astonishing, particularly if you are printing at large sizes. I will see if I can post a quick comparison.




Jun 27, 2009 at 06:00 PM
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p.1 #8 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Tariq,

That would be awesome if you could post a comparison. Thanks for the JFI profiles too.



Jun 27, 2009 at 06:20 PM
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p.1 #9 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Welcome. Here is a comparison using what I have been working on today. This image is intentionally very low in contrast as I'm using it to print a negative for a cyanotype contact print. First the image:
http://www.gibranstudio.com/a900test.jpg

Next, a 100% crop at original size with ACR on the left and Raw Developer on the right:
http://www.gibranstudio.com/a900rawt.jpg

Finally, I will be printing this image at a final size of 45" x 67.5" - crazy, I know - and making 9 individual negs 15" x 22.5" ea. that will be combined to make the final piece. So, here is a section at that size but at 50% view which is what the final neg. quality will look like regarding detail. The resolution difference becomes pretty noticeable the larger you go. ACR on left, Raw Developer on the right:
http://www.gibranstudio.com/a900large.jpg



Jun 27, 2009 at 06:44 PM
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p.1 #10 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


pintofguiness, I'm going to be ordering an arca swiss plate from Korea for my a900. See this thread at dyxum.com: http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/topic60937&get=last.html#695040


May 02, 2010 at 09:41 AM
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p.1 #11 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


pintofguinness wrote:
I am ordering a Sony A900 and am curious which Raw converter those who have this camera use.

I have heard mixed reviews about ACR and how it handles the A900 Raw files. Some say Aperture is better. I have both Lightroom and Aperture but don't use them much yet in conjunction with PSCS4. I am coming from Nikon and have used Capture NX2 for my Nikon Raw files.


I normally use Sony's own IDC as I find it gives the nicest look, esp. in terms of color. I adjust white balance, exposure and color, and then export to CS4 for resizing etc. I also used NX2 on my NEF files.


Also, what quick release plate do you use for the A900? I have had ones made for the specific camera I was using. I have an ArcaTech ballhead and can use any Arca-Swiss type plate. I know there is an L bracket but that is for use without the grip. I couldn't find anything else for the A900.
Do you just use a generic quick release plate?

Thanks for the help

-pint

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I also have an Arcatech ball head and use the Arcatech universal one. Works brilliant.



May 02, 2010 at 12:31 PM
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p.1 #12 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


I use the 1.5"x1.75" generic plate that I think I got from RRS. I do not use the hand grip, as I feel that defeats the purpose of a smaller, lighter camera (I also use 1DS III system). I use DXO for conversion, as I depend on their lens "fix" modules to correct distortion, CA, etc.
Dave



May 02, 2010 at 01:20 PM
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p.1 #13 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


I only produce colour from digital, and IDC is just so accurate and faithful to the scene, great colour tone handling without the rather peppy default look many mass market converters give. New version (3.2) is now out which apparently improves noise (!) at the high ISO levels so beloved by so many, especially the Canikon marketing teams.

I rarely see troublesome noise or CA but tend to focus on the overall image quality to the neglect of nth degree noise suppression or distortion fixes.

Colour is it, but unlike mortyb, I do all that in PS which has much more sophisticated controls and tools and availability of specialist plug-ins and profiles. Joseph Holmes' DCam colour spaces and chroma profiles in particular are very harmonious with Sony output, much more so than for NEFs.

I doubt DxO or CS5 are gonna help me much with Contax and Mamiya lenses that have not been produced for a decade or two, somehow.

I use Markins own plate for the M3 head - I am sure they are all great.



May 02, 2010 at 04:33 PM
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p.1 #14 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


LR 3 is almost as good as c1 !


May 03, 2010 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #15 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


As far as lowlight is concerned, I'd say LR3 might be better than C1.


May 03, 2010 at 06:21 PM
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p.1 #16 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Beautiful shot.

Obviously, color in a converter is just a matter of profiling. Interesingly, the A900's standard jpeg setting, while pleasing, isn't necessarily known as being accurate. Which settings did you use in IDC?



May 05, 2010 at 08:38 AM
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p.1 #17 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


mortyb wrote:
I normally use Sony's own IDC as I find it gives the nicest look, esp. in terms of color. I adjust white balance, exposure and color, and then export to CS4 for resizing etc. I also used NX2 on my NEF files.

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I also have an Arcatech ball head and use the Arcatech universal one. Works brilliant.



I have written up a review of the Acratech Extended Universal L Bracket at dyxum: http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/topic62685_post698712.html#698712



May 09, 2010 at 04:41 PM
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p.1 #18 · Which Raw converter for Sony A900 and Quick Release plate


Hi Douglas, thank you. I never shoot jpegs, all my output is ARW converted straight through IDC with noise controls off, no sharpening, just the RC basics of density and WB. Then it's off to Photoshop for a layer workflow.

Is it so that 'color in a converter is just a matter of profiling'? And if so, why do RCs vary so widely, and therefore some of them get it so wrong, even well-established ones like C1?

I have read a lot of your material so I must thank you for that help over the past nine months or so. I went into Sony eyes open thanks to the fine people at getdpi primarily.

I would like to have another RC (or two) to compare, and will get CS5 later this year so by then I am guessing LR3's ACR will be there, abd I have read it is pretty good for Sony now. If I could get IDC colour in something more useful, like LR, that would be a big step in the right direction, given other advantages in demosaicing many have over IDC, plus the DAM built in. The RC game is very confusing. regards, Philip.




May 10, 2010 at 12:16 AM





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