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p.1 #15d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
Call me crazy, but I think most folks who have used a 5d would agree that there is a little something extra in the images it produces.

So what I want to know is, does the 1ds2 have a similar flavor?
Jun 26, 2009 at 09:15 PM
EB-1
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p.1 #25d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
No, the 1Ds MK II is better.

EBH
Jun 26, 2009 at 09:17 PM
Greg Feldman
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p.1 #35d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
The 1Ds2 makes bigger files and has better AF. That being said, when I look at a finished, processed file from both, I think the 5D images are every bit as good if not better. These are my two bodies, and I'll often reach for the 5D when AF, frame rate, and pure pixel dimensions don't matter.
Jun 26, 2009 at 09:21 PM
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p.1 #45d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
When I first started gaining serious interest in photography about 3 years ago, I noticed (even as an amateur who had minimal to zero knowledge about brands, bodies, etc.) that the 5D produced images that just had a little extra jump.

I don't know if the 1DsII has it, but the 5D definitely does.
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:35 PM
stanj
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p.1 #55d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
The 5D got no love from me compared to the 1Ds2, to put it mildly.
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:37 PM
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p.1 #65d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
5d II > 1ds II > 5d

5d II experience since nov '08
1ds II for 18 months
5d 2.5 years
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:39 PM
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p.1 #75d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
choiboyogg wrote:
5d II > 1ds II > 5d


When it comes to image quality, maybe by a narrow margin. When it comes to everything else, 1Ds2 will eat them both alive.
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:44 PM
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p.1 #85d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
stanj wrote:
choiboyogg wrote5d II > 1ds II > 5d
When it comes to image quality, maybe by a narrow margin. When it comes to everything else, 1Ds2 will eat them both alive.


Well, maybe everything else except size/weight and initial retail price ...
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:46 PM
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p.1 #95d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
stanj wrote:
choiboyogg wrote5d II > 1ds II > 5d
When it comes to image quality, maybe by a narrow margin. When it comes to everything else, 1Ds2 will eat them both alive.


Yeah, I still prefer the 1Ds MK II AF to that of the 1Ds MK III.

EBH
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:50 PM
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p.1 #105d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
netminder0 wrote:
When I first started gaining serious interest in photography about 3 years ago, I noticed (even as an amateur who had minimal to zero knowledge about brands, bodies, etc.) that the 5D produced images that just had a little extra jump.

I don't know if the 1DsII has it, but the 5D definitely does.


That 'extra pop' is really just the DOF difference between a FF and a crop sensor that you experience there. A similar FF camera with the same lens and aperture will produce a very similar picture in terms of that 'pop'. Additional elements in the signal processing may make the difference though.
Jun 26, 2009 at 11:57 PM
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p.1 #115d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
maxxevv wrote:
That 'extra pop' is really just the DOF difference between a FF and a crop sensor that you experience there. A similar FF camera with the same lens and aperture will produce a very similar picture in terms of that 'pop'. Additional elements in the signal processing may make the difference though.



How does crop factor relate to a discussion about two full-frame sensor cameras?
Jun 27, 2009 at 12:39 AM
joewoo
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p.1 #125d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
Miscommunication... He sounds like the 5d was his first ff
Jun 27, 2009 at 05:57 AM
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p.1 #135d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
Greg Feldman wrote:
The 1Ds2 makes bigger files and has better AF. That being said, when I look at a finished, processed file from both, I think the 5D images are every bit as good if not better. These are my two bodies, and I'll often reach for the 5D when AF, frame rate, and pure pixel dimensions don't matter.


+1

As much as I've always been a 1Ds2 fan - for innumerable reasons - I too came to the same conclusion. The 5d has a slight IQ edge (though with lower resolution) than the 1Ds2....

Many of us would love an updated 1ds2 (16+MP sensor)... I'd be on board...

I forgot to add, that if you want to buy one or the other, buy the 1Ds2.. Great camera.. and perhaps the last of Canon's great cameras.....

Edited on Jun 27, 2009 at 08:00 AM · View previous versions
Jun 27, 2009 at 07:54 AM
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p.1 #145d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
EB-1 wrote:
stanj wrote
choiboyogg wrote5d II > 1ds II > 5d
When it comes to image quality, maybe by a narrow margin. When it comes to everything else, 1Ds2 will eat them both alive.
Yeah, I still prefer the 1Ds MK II AF to that of the 1Ds MK III.

EBH


Why? Because it works, and always has?

My first 45pt AF came in my 1VHS many years ago and I was immediately comfortable with it in the 1Ds2....
Jun 27, 2009 at 07:57 AM
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p.1 #155d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
I have both and I would give the edge to the 1ds. The IQ seems a little better and I seem to get more shallow DOF keepers with the upgraded AF.
Cy
Jun 27, 2009 at 08:08 AM
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p.1 #165d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
Sorry, but a camera as not "magic." It is a tool. Some cameras are more or less appropriate to the photography a given photographer might do in a particular set of circumstances.

Photographs can be "magic," but that is not the result of using "magic" cameras.

Dan

corndog wrote:
Call me crazy, but I think most folks who have used a 5d would agree that there is a little something extra in the images it produces.

So what I want to know is, does the 1ds2 have a similar flavor?



Edited on Jun 28, 2009 at 08:56 AM · View previous versions
Jun 27, 2009 at 08:21 AM
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p.1 #175d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
In this case the "magic" is probably a difference in processing profiles. Each model is different and one may need to find or build the best profile for the purpose. Jpegs are another story.

EBH
Jun 27, 2009 at 08:39 AM
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p.1 #185d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
danmitchell wrote:
Sorry, but a camera as not "magic." It is a tools. Some cameras are more or less appropriate to the photography a given photographer might do in a particular set of circumstances.

Photographs can be "magic," but that is not the result of using "magic" cameras.

Dan


http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4193/catstkb.jpg
Jun 27, 2009 at 09:47 AM
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p.1 #195d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
clarence, that was hilarious.

As to the original question, I love how the 1Ds2 renders images around ISO 800. They are just so laid back and subtle I am blown away every time I look at them. Here's a sample:

http://www.beyondthematrix.com/VH0M6271.jpg
Jun 27, 2009 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #205d vs. 1ds2 Magic?
EB-1 wrote:
No, the 1Ds MK II is better.

EBH


+1
Jun 27, 2009 at 08:23 PM
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