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p.4 #1 · Olympus Pen E-P1


mawz wrote:
The big issue with this is that none of the m43 or 4/3rds native lenses small enough to be interesting have focus distance scales let alone hyperfocal markings.


The body does have a good idea what the focus position is, though, as the current fourthirds cameras record it in the Exif. If the manufacturer so chose it doesn't seem it would be difficult at all to display the approximate (comparisons of the Exif value versus photos of rulers show mixed results) focus position on the LCD. A "go hyperfocal" option should be trivial as well.

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Jun 09, 2009 at 03:09 PM
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p.4 #2 · Olympus Pen E-P1


mawz wrote:
One of the advantages of 4/3rds here (and m43 too) is that you're getting enough DoF at f2.8 or f4 to zone focus, or go hyperfocal at f5.6-f8, but you can still achieve shallow DoF effects unlike the smaller sensors.


How should you be able to use the shallow DOF without a viewfinder or without using LV? That was my point. I'd love this camera, but I really can't get why you'd buy it to shoot at hyperfocal, since you'd get sort of the same thing with a smaller sensor, if the lens is good.

The main reason for me, getting a camera like this, would be for its performance at low light or when wanting shallow DOF. And then I'd need to use the freakin' LCD.



Jun 09, 2009 at 03:11 PM
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p.4 #3 · Olympus Pen E-P1


Makten, it sounds like this just isn't the camera for you




Jun 09, 2009 at 04:01 PM
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p.4 #4 · Olympus Pen E-P1


I am really interested in this. One important feature for me would be that I can put the camera in one pocket and the lens in another. That will make it as pocketable as a small P&S. Not always ready, but a good compromise between comfort and image quality. A 35mm-equiv f2.8 pancake lens is a killer app for me.


Jun 09, 2009 at 05:10 PM
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p.4 #5 · Olympus Pen E-P1


well, use your 40/2 or the Zuiko 35/2.8


Jun 09, 2009 at 06:04 PM
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p.4 #6 · Olympus Pen E-P1


I'm also interested. Any more news on this? The pen50th site that used to say next update May 9 now says May 16 & I don't see any update.


Jun 09, 2009 at 09:29 PM
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p.4 #7 · Olympus Pen E-P1


Makten wrote:
How should you be able to use the shallow DOF without a viewfinder or without using LV? That was my point. I'd love this camera, but I really can't get why you'd buy it to shoot at hyperfocal, since you'd get sort of the same thing with a smaller sensor, if the lens is good.

The main reason for me, getting a camera like this, would be for its performance at low light or when wanting shallow DOF. And then I'd need to use the freakin' LCD.


You'd need to use LV for really effective shallow-DoF work. but you can hipshoot at hyperfocal. The big thing is that this is a pocketable camera which can do both, a rarity (the DP1/DP2 being the only other real option for that).



Jun 09, 2009 at 09:52 PM
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p.4 #8 · Olympus Pen E-P1


olyacme wrote:
The body does have a good idea what the focus position is, though, as the current fourthirds cameras record it in the Exif. If the manufacturer so chose it doesn't seem it would be difficult at all to display the approximate (comparisons of the Exif value versus photos of rulers show mixed results) focus position on the LCD. A "go hyperfocal" option should be trivial as well.


Yep, I agree. I'd be very happy if I could get that on my G1 as well.



Jun 09, 2009 at 09:53 PM
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p.4 #9 · Olympus Pen E-P1


htbyron wrote:
I'm also interested. Any more news on this? The pen50th site that used to say next update May 9 now says May 16 & I don't see any update.



The update was the Olympus Pen-F.



Jun 09, 2009 at 09:53 PM
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p.4 #10 · Olympus Pen E-P1


Makten wrote:
How do you focus without LV or AF when there's no viewfinder?

I thought it would have a finder like the original Pen Fs.



Jun 09, 2009 at 11:28 PM
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p.4 #11 · Olympus Pen E-P1


alexandre wrote:
well, use your 40/2 or the Zuiko 35/2.8


This is going to be a pocketable version of 40f2/5D2 for me. My 5D2 doesn't fit in my pocket, so sometimes it's a pain to carry casually.



Jun 10, 2009 at 04:18 AM
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p.4 #12 · Olympus Pen E-P1


this Oly has a 2X crop factor ( I believe), so the 40 and 35 are 80 and 70. 35mm is my favourite FL too, so the 17 2.8 sounds spot on!


Jun 10, 2009 at 09:35 AM
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p.4 #13 · Olympus Pen E-P1


brainiac wrote:
This is going to be a pocketable version of 40f2/5D2 for me. My 5D2 doesn't fit in my pocket, so sometimes it's a pain to carry casually.


In your previous post, you said 35mm EQUIV, and I missed the equiv, sorry!



Jun 10, 2009 at 10:01 AM
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p.4 #14 · Olympus Pen E-P1


TWoK wrote:
I thought it would have a finder like the original Pen Fs.


Nope, LCD only for this one.



Jun 10, 2009 at 10:14 AM
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p.4 #15 · Olympus Pen E-P1


mawz wrote:
Nope, LCD only for this one.

I thought it would have the video finder micro-4/3's thing going on. I have much less interest if this is an LCD only camera.



Jun 10, 2009 at 10:21 AM
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p.4 #16 · Olympus Pen E-P1


TWoK wrote:
I thought it would have the video finder micro-4/3's thing going on. I have much less interest if this is an LCD only camera.


The G1 finder is a fairly massive assembly, that prism hump is fully filled. Oly had to ditch it to get the smaller size, or go with a far inferior EVF. Looks like they took the first option.

There _may_ be a hotshoe EVF like the Ricoh GX100/GX200 offers. I hope so. Otherwise it's going to be optical hotshoe finder time.



Jun 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM
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p.4 #17 · Olympus Pen E-P1


^ I think that's what it's going to be, LCD only... I'd rock one with an external viewfinder if that's the case. I want one regardless.

edit: mawz beat me to the punch.



Jun 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM
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p.4 #18 · Olympus Pen E-P1


Pic of rear controls....

http://43rumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/back_ep1.jpg



Jun 11, 2009 at 09:22 AM
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p.4 #19 · Olympus Pen E-P1


I wonder if the circular pattern of holes at the top of that picture is a mic. If so, is it for video or for voice notes? Hmmm....


Jun 11, 2009 at 09:26 AM
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p.4 #20 · Olympus Pen E-P1


I think that's the speaker, the two mics are in the front, 1 on each side of the lens.

BTW, it fits nice with the drawing leaked of the EP-1

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2443/rearep1.jpg



Jun 11, 2009 at 09:48 AM
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