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spiderhunters
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p.1 #1 · Which is better?


This Western Bluebird was shot with FM'er Vivek Khanzode on 3/14/09, on Calaveras Rd, Milpitas, CA

On my previous posting, I got some comments that additional contrast and saturation may look better.

Looking for comments and advice here.

# 1 is the product of how I would normally post-process.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3619/3364894390_287af2c561_o.jpg

#2 - I increased contrast and saturation.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3631/3364894618_686a1e8074_o.jpg

Which one do you prefer?

#1

#2



Thanks,
Vivek Tiwari



Mar 18, 2009 at 12:12 AM
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p.1 #2 · Which is better?


2


Mar 18, 2009 at 12:36 AM
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p.1 #3 · Which is better?


# 2 Vivek

Lil



Mar 18, 2009 at 01:32 AM
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p.1 #4 · Which is better?


2


Mar 18, 2009 at 01:53 AM
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p.1 #5 · Which is better?


2

Alan



Mar 18, 2009 at 02:13 AM
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p.1 #6 · Which is better?


I actually like the subdued colours in the background of #1, but I like the vivid colours on the bird in #2. Just to keep things complicated....


Mar 18, 2009 at 08:29 AM
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p.1 #7 · Which is better?


Lovely shot Vivek, these guys really do have vivid blues and I like how you brought that out in #2.

I reprocessed the image in the Lab Color Space to see how you like it.

Curves adjustment in the A and B channel with slight USM in the Lightness channel.

Back to RGB Color Space to slightly sharpen the eye and beak with some levels adjustment to the beak.

Selected BG only and darkened a touch to make the subject pop a bit more.


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k154/cruentus_2006/bbmodfinal.jpg

I hope you don't mind me fiddling with your fine shot Vivek, but if you do I will certainly take it down

Took another stab without the Lab Color Space. Closer to what you saw?

Tom

Edited on Mar 19, 2009 at 08:49 PM · View previous versions



Mar 18, 2009 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #8 · Which is better?


Great colors Vivek... I like the second one better (at least on my screen). Is the EXIF intact?

-- V



Mar 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM
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Great shot Vivek, I like two better.

Rob



Mar 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM
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p.1 #10 · Which is better?


Great shot w/ fantastic colors. I like the 2nd one also.
dan



Mar 18, 2009 at 12:07 PM
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p.1 #11 · Which is better?


Very nice shot Vivek #2 all the way

Carl



Mar 18, 2009 at 04:07 PM
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p.1 #12 · Which is better?


Thanks to everyone who replied.
#2 is the clear winner. And truly when placed side-by-side, #2 just looks better.

What I have learned from this is to nudge my mental calibration towards the side of greater contrast and saturation.

Tom - truly appreciate the time you took to experiment with the photo and share the results. Now to my eyes and on my monitor - the result is a bit over-sharpened and the blue is less "inky" in your pic compared to what I remember from the field. Do like the direction you were going on the background and agree that the duller background of #1 and the bird of #2 are perhaps the best combo.
Thanks again for the feedback!

Vivek Tiwari



Mar 19, 2009 at 01:17 PM
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p.1 #13 · Which is better?


A very nice shot as is but for me the blue in the first looks more realistic and plenty saturated. A selective saturation of the birds "non blue" areas and the BG, lighten around the eye, and darken the BG would make this even better.


Mar 19, 2009 at 01:31 PM
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p.1 #14 · Which is better?


Very nice. I prefer # 2 also, Vivek. One thing that I noticed about Tom Sanders' modification is that the exposure of the eye area is much improved.

Sometimes, something as simple as using the dodge tool with a minimal exposure setting can help you acheive this result without over exposing the area.

Cheers,
Ed



Mar 19, 2009 at 04:03 PM
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p.1 #15 · Which is better?


spiderhunters wrote:
Now to my eyes and on my monitor - the result is a bit over-sharpened and the blue is less "inky" in your pic compared to what I remember from the field.
Vivek Tiwari


agreed



Mar 19, 2009 at 08:07 PM
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p.1 #16 · Which is better?


1 is more natural
2 is more vivid

This comes down to taste, dedication to reality, and taste.

I like the first better.

Morris



Mar 19, 2009 at 10:26 PM
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p.1 #17 · Which is better?


2 is way over saturated. 1 is spot on for me. Very nice shot 91 that is )

Cheers



Mar 19, 2009 at 10:31 PM
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p.1 #18 · Which is better?


Vivek, as Morris said it all comes down to personal taste. However brightening the bg usually takes away from the subject, so if you want to add more impact to the image work only on the subject using subtly brightness, contrast, saturation and sharpening. This will make the subject stand out more and will keep the viewer's eyes on the subject.
Try it! You'll like it!
Socrate



Mar 19, 2009 at 11:08 PM
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p.1 #19 · Which is better?


Usually I like vivid. But with this one I have to go with #1.

Jude



Mar 19, 2009 at 11:24 PM
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p.1 #20 · Which is better?


This is a fun forum

Folks thanks again. The feedback and comments are really helpful.
Here's my final attempt.
Takes #2, darken and unsaturate the background a bit and fixed the exposure on a face just a tad. Closer to Tom Sander's edits.

BTW, the variation across monitors is rather bothersome. I use three monitors in the course of the day - a CRT at work, an LCD on my laptop and and a color calibrated HP LP2475w at home. Pictures look very different on each. I used to trust the CRT until recently but now stick with the HP for all photo work.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3647/3369874844_ecef9939db_o.jpg

Vivek Tiwari



Mar 20, 2009 at 12:14 AM





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