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p.27 #1 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


s23chang wrote:
As a hobbyist, yes. Made the jump 3 wks ago. I have debated for a while then I decided to use the new lens as a prime (since is quite sharp and low CA ) with zoom capability.
One lens elminates the need for carrying 85mm/135mm/200mm where F2 or faster is not needed. Most importantly... great for sports shooting especially its focus lock is more predictive and twice as fast AF than the mk I IS. Very quiet motor as well. shorter min focus distance allow close up photography as well.



I am in the same boat as you were. Previously I have used the 85 for sports and the 135 for portraits along with my 70-200 2.8 is mk i lens for both functions. But with my Mark IV and buying this lens, I am thinking I can sell the 135, 85, and the 70-200 2.8 is mk i lens to help fund the new 70-200 mk ii lens. Do most agree the new mk ii lens is pretty close to the 85 and 135 image quality.



Apr 08, 2010 at 10:23 AM
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p.27 #2 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


rd4tile -

some of those images look a little soft to me. Is that the lens + TC or is that more the AF trailing the movement a bit (i.e. slower tracking)?

J.



Apr 08, 2010 at 10:56 AM
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p.27 #3 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


There's definitely some motion blur in the wing movement. The head/eye is pretty sharp in all those. I mean we're talking pigeons here and the shutter was down to 1/800th on many of those.

However there is one thing I'm still a bit undecided about, which is keeping IS on during hi speed pans or rapid tracking movements in general and it's effect on absolute sharpness when shooting at 1000th and higher. I've shot with it off, in both mode 1 & 2 and I'm beginning to think that IS in conjuction with the slower AF (with the 2X onboard) may be causing some minimal motion blur. That could be what you're seeing as well. I first noticed that effect when shooting freestyle skiers without the TC. The AF is lightning fast, as fast as anything Canon makes and yet I'd see some shots (very randomly) with minute amounts of blur even though it was obvious the MKIV had held AF perfectly in the sequence. I'm seeing it more with the TC onboard though.

Like any other new lens it takes a while to find out the little nuances of what it can and can't do.





Apr 08, 2010 at 01:23 PM
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p.27 #4 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


You know, it could be the time (0.5s) for the IS to spin up. So, if you separate AF and exposure on buttons, you can get the IS spun up and the lens tracking before you actually fire the shutter.

Also, do you notice that the 1.4 TC is faster in AF than the 2.0?

J.



Apr 08, 2010 at 02:15 PM
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p.27 #5 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


JohnJ80 wrote:
Also, do you notice that the 1.4 TC is faster in AF than the 2.0?

J.


Yes it's hard to tell the 1.4 is even on the lens.

The 2X is fast, similar to the performance I got when I used it on the 400DO. It does exhibit a noticeable slow down with poorly lit/low contrast subjects.



Apr 08, 2010 at 09:00 PM
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p.27 #6 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


rd4tile wrote:
Yes it's hard to tell the 1.4 is even on the lens.

The 2X is fast, similar to the performance I got when I used it on the 400DO. It does exhibit a noticeable slow down with poorly lit/low contrast subjects.


That probably ices it for me. Looks like I'm going to have to pick one of these up for soccer season. <sigh>

J.



Apr 08, 2010 at 09:56 PM
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p.27 #7 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Jonesy wrote:
Compared to the 200/2 @ f2


Uh OH . . . . . . Sacrilege!



Apr 08, 2010 at 11:28 PM
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p.27 #8 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Jonesy wrote:
Compared to the 200/2 @ f2



Thank you for the example. The difference is there but whether it is worth the extra cost... I'm thinking not.



Apr 09, 2010 at 06:17 AM
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p.27 #9 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Hrow wrote:
Thank you for the example. The difference is there but whether it is worth the extra cost... I'm thinking not.


Depends on whether your need the extra stop, or the better bokeh of the 200/2. The same will apply to the 135mm. For relatively static subjects the IS is ok, but if you need the shutter speed...



Apr 09, 2010 at 06:55 AM
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p.27 #10 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Just received my EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II from Adorama. Wow. Wow. Its the first time I've pixel-peeped images and not just had my expectations exceeded, but was truly blown away. Images are sharp, even wide-open at 200mm.


Apr 09, 2010 at 07:32 PM
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p.27 #11 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


seems really nice with 1.4TC


Apr 10, 2010 at 04:49 PM
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p.27 #12 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


I see most images on this thread are taken with 1DMK4. Would the new 70-200 LII perform just as good on the MK3?


Apr 10, 2010 at 07:10 PM
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p.27 #13 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


gxgn wrote:
I see most images on this thread are taken with 1DMK4. Would the new 70-200 LII perform just as good on the MK3?


It performs swell on my 1Ds3



Apr 10, 2010 at 07:10 PM
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p.27 #14 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


It's a sweet lens. I think it's very much worth the price. Unfortunately, mine has ended up being the one and only lens I've needed to MA. +4 on the 1DsIII, +11 on the 1DIII. It's so friggin' sharp the focal plane is super easy to see, so adjusting is very simple. It'll make a trip to Irvine when I get the chance.


Apr 10, 2010 at 07:22 PM
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p.27 #15 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


have anyone use this for video yet? Is there any big different you can see compare this with version 1? I'm talking about pure video with 5d mk ii / 7D only. No still photography.


Apr 10, 2010 at 10:35 PM
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p.27 #16 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


How do users find the bokeh? DPreview is quoted as saying "Relatively harsh rendition of out-of-focus areas of the image". Makes me nervous.. but waiting to take the plunge on this investment and sell my ultra sharp version 1.


May 06, 2010 at 09:16 PM
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p.27 #17 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


I was going to sell my MK1 and reconsidered. This one is of a fast moving vehicle, MK1 handheld and with the 1.4 TC on it, shot with the 5D and it's maligned focus sensors and slow frame rate:

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v9/p998236253-3.jpg

And the close-up:

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v9/p708976837-4.jpg



May 06, 2010 at 10:12 PM
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p.27 #18 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


wow!


May 07, 2010 at 04:13 AM
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p.27 #19 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


I just got mine and can't believe how great it is compared to my Mk1. Mk1 sold. F4IS going to be sold.


May 07, 2010 at 06:11 AM
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p.27 #20 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


James Cripps wrote:
How do users find the bokeh? DPreview is quoted as saying "Relatively harsh rendition of out-of-focus areas of the image". Makes me nervous.. but waiting to take the plunge on this investment and sell my ultra sharp version 1.


If your Mk I is ultra sharp, why replace it?

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



May 09, 2010 at 05:41 AM
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