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p.15 #1 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


I dunno... Gotta' throw a monkey into the wrench here:

It's sharper, and the colors are richer. (and I'll probably get one eventually) - but it still has that typical Canon lack of 3D effect.

Granted, it has a little bit more than the old model, but for $2500 you would think Canon could have finally figured it out.

(No, I don't shoot Nikon!)


Yeah, I know. Someone will immediately posy a shot done at 200/2.8 with a massively OOF background, and tell me I'm crazy. - but that will just show that they don't know what plasticity (3D effect) is.

Canon, what is the deal already?



Mar 18, 2010 at 07:12 AM
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p.15 #2 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


mm...can you show some pictures to demonstrate exactly what you mean? I'm curious now...


Mar 18, 2010 at 08:07 AM
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p.15 #3 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Cableaddict wrote:
I dunno... Gotta' throw a monkey into the wrench here:

It's sharper, and the colors are richer. (and I'll probably get one eventually) - but it still has that typical Canon lack of 3D effect.

Granted, it has a little bit more than the old model, but for $2500 you would think Canon could have finally figured it.



Well I'm not so sure. Some of the posted images have a "Zeiss" look to me. But it's not just that. It's the total package of IS and AF and zoom range with the IQ that has got me interested.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Zeiss and the 3D look it gives but it aint got zoom/AF/IS and this white tube of glass certainly has.



Mar 18, 2010 at 08:34 AM
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p.15 #4 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Cableaddict wrote:
I dunno... Gotta' throw a monkey into the wrench here:

It's sharper, and the colors are richer. (and I'll probably get one eventually) - but it still has that typical Canon lack of 3D effect.

Granted, it has a little bit more than the old model, but for $2500 you would think Canon could have finally figured it out.

(No, I don't shoot Nikon!)

Yeah, I know. Someone will immediately posy a shot done at 200/2.8 with a massively OOF background, and tell me I'm crazy. - but that will just show that they don't know what plasticity (3D effect) is.

Canon, what is
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I don't really agree with this. The great majority of the shots on this thread show pretty good edge contrast, and as a result I think many of them do score well for impression of 3D. The mk1 certainly did not have much of that quality, at least the one I owned. The 3D-ness of this new lens is one of the things getting me excited about it. Take this fantastic shot for instance:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4438918433_d9f69891ff_b.jpg



Mar 18, 2010 at 08:36 AM
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p.15 #5 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


mohamed alfari wrote:
to buy it i am going to sell my 70-200f4L IS, 200f2.8LII , and now i am think about selling 135L too, do you think its a good idea? because it seem its extremely sharp and 2.8 with IS seems like very good combination.


The lenses you have are all about low weight, small size and low profile. Any 70-200/2.8 lens is the complete opposite. In fact, I sold my 70-200/2.8 IS only because of these reasons. You may want to consider these factors.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.




Mar 18, 2010 at 08:43 AM
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p.15 #6 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Cableaddict wrote:
I dunno... Gotta' throw a monkey into the wrench here:

It's sharper, and the colors are richer. (and I'll probably get one eventually) - but it still has that typical Canon lack of 3D effect.

Granted, it has a little bit more than the old model, but for $2500 you would think Canon could have finally figured it out.

(No, I don't shoot Nikon!)

Yeah, I know. Someone will immediately posy a shot done at 200/2.8 with a massively OOF background, and tell me I'm crazy. - but that will just show that they don't know what plasticity (3D effect) is.

Canon, what is
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Well many are posting up shots with minimal PPing and with the resizing it minimizes that effect. This thing is as sharp as my 100 macro IS, 400 f5.6 and 70-200 f4 L IS even in the corners (which I suspected it would be on a 1.3X crop). Most of these are from guys like me taking it out of the box, shooting and posting up, the cream has not risen to the top yet trust me.

If you're talking about the Canon line in general then you're right I don't know what you're talking about.



Mar 18, 2010 at 09:03 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
Yeah, I know. Someone will immediately posy a shot done at 200/2.8 with a massively OOF background, and tell me I'm crazy. - but that will just show that they don't know what plasticity (3D effect) is.

Canon, what is the deal already?


Hmm, how about this:

http://peltarion.eu/img/statue_1.jpg


http://peltarion.eu/img/statue_2.jpg


RAW->JPEG in Lightroom using default settings. No modifications except resize.




Mar 18, 2010 at 09:20 AM
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p.15 #8 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Could this be the lens that finally bests the legendary drainage pipe?


Mar 18, 2010 at 10:57 AM
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p.15 #9 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


denoir, not a bad shot of that statue for a point and shoot


Mar 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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evertdoorn wrote:
denoir, not a bad shot of that statue for a point and shoot


Yes, I was waiting for that comment - it came quickly

(Edit: Removed OT gear rant )

Edited on Mar 18, 2010 at 03:55 PM · View previous versions



Mar 18, 2010 at 11:42 AM
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p.15 #11 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Cableaddict wrote:
It's sharper, and the colors are richer. (and I'll probably get one eventually) - but it still has that typical Canon lack of 3D effect.

Yeah, I know. Someone will immediately posy a shot done at 200/2.8 with a massively OOF background, and tell me I'm crazy. - but that will just show that they don't know what plasticity (3D effect) is.


After reading this I am still not sure what is 3D



Mar 18, 2010 at 02:32 PM
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p.15 #12 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Amazing looking quality! [Checks fund level in bank account ]


Mar 18, 2010 at 03:12 PM
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p.15 #13 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


This image has as much 3D as I could squeeze out of the old version. The scene and time of day has as much to do with the effect as does a lens.

http://SavasK.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p806411936-4.jpg

Here’s a super-close crop of the girl’s hair:


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w134/_Savas/Funny%20stuff/extract-dna.png



Mar 18, 2010 at 03:20 PM
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p.15 #14 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Fred Relaix wrote:
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After reading this I am still not sure what is 3D


Agreed, please lets not go down the "3D" path again.



Mar 18, 2010 at 03:31 PM
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p.15 #15 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


@ Savas K: that took about 20 seconds before I got it

Guess you're test driving the new 1ds with 32 gigapixel sensor right?



Mar 18, 2010 at 04:40 PM
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p.15 #16 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


michael49 wrote:
Agreed, please lets not go down the "3D" path again.



Mea Culpa!

I'll behave now, I promise.



Mar 18, 2010 at 06:24 PM
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p.15 #17 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Well, I picked mine up today... and I am impressed already.

5D2, ISO 640, 100mm @ f/2.8:

http://www.vothphoto.com/files/personal/fm/70-200-II/70-200-IIa.jpg
http://www.vothphoto.com/files/personal/fm/70-200-II/70-200-IIb.jpg



Mar 18, 2010 at 06:46 PM
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p.15 #18 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Hey MKII owners,

I just got mine today. It's late so I haven't been able to do many test shots, but I was wondering: does the IS make intermittent whirring noises? I was expecting a constant low level adjustment sound (which I can hear) but sometimes there is a brief "seek-whirr" kind of noise about as loud as the autofocus mechanism. This "seek-whirr" lasts only a fraction of a second before it goes back to a pretty quiet operation. Just checking if that's normal.

edit: BTW this is my first Canon lens with IS so I'm not sure what to expect exactly. The only other IS lens I have used recently is a 17-55mm EF-S at a store and it was only for a short time and the store was noisy.



Mar 18, 2010 at 11:11 PM
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p.15 #19 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Coming from the original version, which like many, I thought was a little lacking at f/2.8 across the whole lens, but especially on the long end........I find this new version to be far superior. I'm not saying the original was bad, not at all.....it's a classic workhorse lens for so many, but as I'm a prime guy first and foremost, with a few zooms for versaltility, I always found the original 70-200 2.8 IS to be lacking at f/2.8 and that always irked me. I can safely say f/2.8 on this new version is simply excellent. So much so, that I'm considering getting rid of my small 200 2.8 II, which the version I of the 70-200 couldn't touch for sharpenss. Then we come to AF. One word......SNAPPY! This thing snaps into focus so fast and accurate that one feels like they just got whiplash. I tried it in low light on my 5D2 and absolutely no hunting. Incredibly confident and competant AF! Anyhow, just thought I'd share my initial observations.


Mar 18, 2010 at 11:52 PM
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p.15 #20 · 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Master thread


Hey! Please join the Flickr Group for the lens! http://www.flickr.com/groups/70-20028isii/

Thanks

Spread the word and post shots/info.




Mar 19, 2010 at 12:13 AM
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