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p.4 #1 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks Alex, always looking for new and better ways to do things in post work.

Rich



Aug 05, 2009 at 12:48 PM
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p.4 #2 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Hi Alex,

So I have downloaded it , it is my actions folder, how do I run it, it is greyed out doesn't let me press the little triangle button.. is it because I have C34?

anyway i just ran through your work flow, here is a comparison of downsized image in CS4

Alex Nail sharpen .. is this a bit over cooked? its weird how the colours look more intense. I put a mask on the sky and water a bit to tone it down
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/JaneGoodall/2G1I0363balexnail.jpg

and not sharpened just down sized
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/JaneGoodall/2G1I0363balexnailnotsharpemd-1.jpg

here is the usm 0.3 at 200%
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a373/JaneGoodall/2G1I0363balexnailUSM-1.jpg

so Alex do you think your workflow improves my image?

Edited on Aug 05, 2009 at 02:19 PM · View previous versions



Aug 05, 2009 at 01:14 PM
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p.4 #3 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Well done...this is now my default standard for web sharpening now....very effective and easy to do. If it ends up a bit crisp, I just select the second layer and reduce opacity a tic.

Thanks VERY much.

If you ever want to explore a sharpening action I have for sharpening full sized items from Dan Margulis (if you dont already have it) just drop me a line and I will return the favor.

Roman



Aug 05, 2009 at 02:05 PM
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p.4 #4 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


roman.johnston wrote:
Well done...this is now my default standard for web sharpening now....very effective and easy to do. If it ends up a bit crisp, I just select the second layer and reduce opacity a tic.

Thanks VERY much.

If you ever want to explore a sharpening action I have for sharpening full sized items from Dan Margulis (if you dont already have it) just drop me a line and I will return the favor.

Roman

can you post it for us to try?

Thanks

jane



Aug 05, 2009 at 02:21 PM
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p.4 #5 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Dont have a share point to post it on, but if somone else has the small space needed I would be happy to supply it to them.

Roman



Aug 05, 2009 at 03:19 PM
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p.4 #6 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks so much.

But I'm also mad, because now I have to redo all my photos for web! The improvement is too great not to.

I know so much about photoshop, but sharpening is one of the last frontiers.... I really don't know anything about it, so this helps loads!



Aug 05, 2009 at 05:13 PM
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p.4 #7 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


JaneG wrote:
so Alex do you think your workflow improves my image?


While I certainly ain't Alex, I will say that your application of his technique to this image (a GREAT one, btw) looks a litte oversharpened.....**for my taste**. And though you say you've applied a mask to the water/sky areas, I most noticed it in the waters and in the rocky area at the water's edge toward the right middle ground area (where the rocky stuff gets a little light gray in color).



Aug 05, 2009 at 06:50 PM
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p.4 #8 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks to all.

Will this work in Photoshop Elements 6 ?

Sergey.



Aug 05, 2009 at 07:50 PM
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p.4 #9 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


I have had some hits of people asking for my other sharpening action....and if no one here responds to my hosting option I will send it to you. But first is there anyone out there that minds hosting an action file for larger sharpening action?

Roman



Aug 06, 2009 at 08:34 AM
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p.4 #10 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks Alex, I have been wondering how some got their pix so sharp.

This is terrific and glad to know it works in CS4.

M



Aug 06, 2009 at 09:28 AM
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p.4 #11 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks Alex, I have been wondering how some got their pix so sharp.

This is terrific and glad to know it works in CS4.

M



Aug 06, 2009 at 02:09 PM
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p.4 #12 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Thanks for the nuggets of knowledge you 2, and thanks for the action, I'll be checking it out, tweaking it to suit my tastes and adding it to my web work flow.... which I havent payed much attention to in the past.


Aug 06, 2009 at 06:58 PM
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p.4 #13 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Well Pearlstreet was nice enough to put a copy of the Dan Margulis sharpening action I have for full sized sharpening up on a space on the web. Thanks! And thank you Alex for sharing your web sharpening action(s).

Here is the link for those who want to try it. (Full verion of photoshop only will not work on elements)

http://www.vanlieuphotography.com/sharp_action/

Roman



Aug 07, 2009 at 08:07 AM
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p.4 #14 · UPDATED: advanced web sharpening for landscape photographers


Gosh I'm sorry I obviously havent been in here enough, for those of you that are interested I have now created a simplifed action which should also allow you to add your own a little easier. I also took onboard suggestions to 'fade' the sharpening to luminosity mode and the sharpened layers (there are now 2 on top of an unsharpened layer) are in luminosity mode, with layer masks. The sharpest layer has a mask which is 50% grey which I beleive gives the best result as an average technique. You can paint white on it to get sharper still. If this still isnt enough, use a smart sharpen at 0.2 px and 100%. The latest version should also work on non-english versions of photoshop, which the last action did not. Older versions of photoshop do not have the 'fade' command so you should simply delete this part from the action (it should be redundant anyway since the layers are set to luminosity)

The latest version can be found here: Web Resize

I hear that people using Mac's may not be able to download it. If that is the case drop me a line at alex[at]alexnail.com and I will gladly send it to you.

Jane to answer your question, yes, I do think that image looks better, look at the cleaner definition in the foreground rocks. Certain parts of the image could lok fractionally more saturated with the old method because I made adjustments as part of the action to account for the slight loss of colour from brightenign the slight edges and darkening the dark edges (which is obviously what sharpening is). The correction mentioned above will solve this.

Roman thanks a lot for the action. Its a shame that I found it after I placed an order for 150 prints!

Dan Martin wrote:
You should put together a website to take donations, I'd gladly throw you a few bucks for putting this package together. Kudos!


As this is not my original work (I cant remember where I read it) and I got that knowledge for free, I dont think I should charge, but I am glad you have found it worthwhile



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