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p.9 #2D3x better than 5DII
LeifG wrote:
Tony: it's not for me to tell you what to do, but if you are interested I see nothing wrong with the above quotes. But if you call him a clown, you cannot object to someone else insulting you. If they insult you first, best not to respond in kind.
Right, well the above quotes were what I wrote before Bifurcator chimed in right below me.; and I didn't call KR a clown (which he is) until after that.
Tony: it's not for me to tell you what to do, but if you are interested I see nothing wrong with the above quotes. But if you call him a clown, you cannot object to someone else insulting you. If they insult you first, best not to respond in kind.
Right, well the above quotes were what I wrote before Bifurcator chimed in right below me.; and I didn't call KR a clown (which he is) until after that.
Jan 26, 2009 at 03:14 PM
p.9 #3D3x better than 5DII
My post although right below yours (if indeed it was
) was not addressing you personally. I was commenting on the thread in general. He was being attacked personally. I don't know him nor care really whether it was KR or someone else but I personally find it very distasteful and weak. When I see it I'll stand up against it as I can. Even if it were against G.W.Bush, Obama, or Bill Gates who I feel are satan's minions. Disempower them, attack their deeds, show the truth; but personally attacking them with discrediting remarks, slights, and insults in a serious manner rubs me the wrong way and I believe shows a very weak intellect. There was a lot of it in the thread so I said something.
As far as what qualifies as personal attacks I detect it by the english. "He is a clown." is a personal attack. "He acts like a clown..." is less so. "He uses clown tactics..." is more acceptable. "The articles he writes and the tests he performs are often incorrect." with links specifying a few is also fine but "His tests are daft and his writing absurd..." with no references is borderline and on the personal side - especially considering the adjectives used. Further, the lack of any actual references, quotes, or links only serves to disqualify any points that may have actually been valid and makes the person making the comments look like a bitter jealous twit. Anyway, that's how see it. Quoting someone and saying "that's a moronic reply" is probably offensive but to me it's completely different than saying "you're a moron", "what a moron", or "he's a moron." if the tone is serious. I'm not saying that I think others should or shouldn't adopt this criteria; it's simply what I go by.
) was not addressing you personally. I was commenting on the thread in general. He was being attacked personally. I don't know him nor care really whether it was KR or someone else but I personally find it very distasteful and weak. When I see it I'll stand up against it as I can. Even if it were against G.W.Bush, Obama, or Bill Gates who I feel are satan's minions. Disempower them, attack their deeds, show the truth; but personally attacking them with discrediting remarks, slights, and insults in a serious manner rubs me the wrong way and I believe shows a very weak intellect. There was a lot of it in the thread so I said something. As far as what qualifies as personal attacks I detect it by the english. "He is a clown." is a personal attack. "He acts like a clown..." is less so. "He uses clown tactics..." is more acceptable. "The articles he writes and the tests he performs are often incorrect." with links specifying a few is also fine but "His tests are daft and his writing absurd..." with no references is borderline and on the personal side - especially considering the adjectives used. Further, the lack of any actual references, quotes, or links only serves to disqualify any points that may have actually been valid and makes the person making the comments look like a bitter jealous twit. Anyway, that's how see it. Quoting someone and saying "that's a moronic reply" is probably offensive but to me it's completely different than saying "you're a moron", "what a moron", or "he's a moron." if the tone is serious. I'm not saying that I think others should or shouldn't adopt this criteria; it's simply what I go by.
Jan 27, 2009 at 01:42 AM
p.9 #4D3x better than 5DII
You guys still on it?
Please, this is beneath any of you. I've seen you all add a lot of quality content to this forum. I enjoy seeing your more informative posts. Your typing is better needed elsewhere.
Please put your energy on doing that in stead, rhetoric skill i better practiced somewhere else. If you haven't solved the quarrel over semantics yet, then I doubt that this (faceless internet bulletin boarding) is a type of communication that gives you the means and possibilities to do so.
Now please don't jump ME for getting in the middle of it.
*Sneaks out, ninja style.*
Edited on Jan 27, 2009 at 06:45 AM · View previous versions
Please, this is beneath any of you. I've seen you all add a lot of quality content to this forum. I enjoy seeing your more informative posts. Your typing is better needed elsewhere.
Please put your energy on doing that in stead, rhetoric skill i better practiced somewhere else. If you haven't solved the quarrel over semantics yet, then I doubt that this (faceless internet bulletin boarding) is a type of communication that gives you the means and possibilities to do so.
Now please don't jump ME for getting in the middle of it.
*Sneaks out, ninja style.*
Edited on Jan 27, 2009 at 06:45 AM · View previous versions
Jan 27, 2009 at 06:30 AM
p.9 #5D3x better than 5DII
*All that's left behind is a note, slowly spiralling towards the floor...*
PS.
Yes, the D3x is a better photography tool than the 5D2 (concerning build-, picture- and interface quality)... Now I have a few short moments of first hand experience, not just raw-handling from other's work
That the build and the picture quality difference is in favor of the D3x is mostly non-negotiable (PQ until you get to >800 ISO), but I realize the ergonomics and interface questions is up to personal taste. Colour is PP dependent, so I will not accept "better colour" as an argument going either way.
It is also heavier, and more expensive. End of personal experience.
- DS
PS.
Yes, the D3x is a better photography tool than the 5D2 (concerning build-, picture- and interface quality)... Now I have a few short moments of first hand experience, not just raw-handling from other's work
That the build and the picture quality difference is in favor of the D3x is mostly non-negotiable (PQ until you get to >800 ISO), but I realize the ergonomics and interface questions is up to personal taste. Colour is PP dependent, so I will not accept "better colour" as an argument going either way.It is also heavier, and more expensive. End of personal experience.
- DS
Jan 27, 2009 at 06:45 AM