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Andrew Welsh
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p.1 #1 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


2nd shooter at this wedding, so I took the chance to practice some detail shots. Got my only good ring shot of the whole year. Made a mosaic ala Hassas style.

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1186/3171546267_e9cec5ef3a_o.jpg
2
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1019/3172376254_663456dc54_o.jpg
3 Something about this doesn't quite work right, but I can't put my finger on it... any help?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1026/3172376386_0f0c0fd0c7_o.jpg
4
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1079/3172376526_974e17dd8a_o.jpg
5
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/3172376604_37be7ed45e_o.jpg
6
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1126/3171546921_f52766d5de_o.jpg
7
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1125/3171547121_524b68c4e6_o.jpg
8 not my best cake shot.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/3172377098_186b296eb5_o.jpg
9 mmmm 300/2.8 mmmmm
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3128/3172377172_f3cd10e762_o.jpg
10 mmmm 300/2.8 mmmmm
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1149/3172377372_b92f7191ed_o.jpg
11 First dance had their 13-yo neice sing the song (not pictured). She was an awesome singer, don't be surprised if she's on American Idol in 2-3 years (whatever the min age is).
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3256/3172377474_49b33b04a1_o.jpg
12
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1166/3171547725_f62fd90492_o.jpg
13
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/3172377810_2b4538727c_o.jpg
14
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/3172377946_6ca470a688_o.jpg
15 tried the moon shot again (300/2.8 was used), close but not quite.. they were too close. I think I got it right at a later wedding I haven't posted yet.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/3172375834_49af3f3463_o.jpg

C+C welcome, thanks in advance.



Jan 05, 2009 at 07:05 PM
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p.1 #2 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


Nice work on the details. Works rather well.

You also covered the reception well. 7 is my fav here. Might have too much red channel though.

Reason 3 doesn't work is because of her wrinkled forehead. A model will do this every time when asked to look from a top down view.

Question. Why did you use the 300mm for the last shot. Seems so unneeded. Wouldn't have a 50 been more then enough? Like trying to use a saw to cut a steak.

Kick butt overall.
~Sam



Jan 05, 2009 at 07:33 PM
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p.1 #3 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


Hi Andrew:

Some nice stuff here. I like the composite, but can do without the iPhone shot. Perhaps because it is adjacent to the nano.

#2 is a good moment. Can't tell, but there might be some motion blur or focus miss. Love to know what her other hand was doing and what she was saying.

#3 Wrinkles! Great lighting with good dress detail, but head needs to be positioned to eliminate the wrinkles. She'll hate it.

#6 Hot spots. Could be my monitor, but it looks like you blew out some skin

#7 I like this, but would have lowered the temp a bit [personal pref]

#12 I would have cropped out the candle and salt shaker rather than his head

#13 &14 I like both. I would have opted the focus on the girl in the foreground on 14 [again personal pref]

#15 Again, I'm getting blown out skin on my monitor. Also, the grooms hand is outside the plane of sharp focus. I don't think I would have used the 300, as the compression makes his hand look like it is coming out of his head. A shorter focal length, with more DOF would have provided a bit more technical satisfaction.

Hope some of this helps.

>rw






Jan 05, 2009 at 07:41 PM
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p.1 #4 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


Hi Andrew,
Good set, you caught some great moments. I dig the ring shot.
#15 doesn't work for me for a few reasons, but even the fact that there is a wart one finger and a bandaid on the other makes this one close but no cigar.



Jan 05, 2009 at 09:56 PM
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p.1 #5 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


I assume he used the 300 to get the moon as large as possible. The same crop with a shorter lens would yield a smaller moon.

I really enjoyed all of the images in the collage. The shot of all the wine bottles is especially nice.
Nice Work.



Jan 05, 2009 at 10:11 PM
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p.1 #6 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


hey drew-nice set-hope you don't mind a few thoughts:

1-nice shots-good details

4 & 5-like these-good feel for the moment-would like to see exposure pushed up a tad in #5

7-close but i'm not big on the centered comp on this one and the shot from your eye level

10, 12, 14: overall, i like your captures at the reception, but these 3 shots have crops of the head which i typically like to provide tight framing and intimacy with the subject-however, for candids like this, it doesn't quite work-300mm seems too long for this kind of stuff IMHO

hope this is useful and not too nit picky-i do like the overall all feel, dude

daniel



Jan 06, 2009 at 01:20 AM
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p.1 #7 · [-- Sheila + Mike --], 1 Nov 08


Thank you everyone for the comments so far-- I see your point about the wrinkles-- I suppose I should have had her crane her neck some more or turn her eyeballs but not raise her eyebrows to get that kind of shot. Even still, the angle with which we're looking at her it seems too shallow, I felt like I should've been on top of her head more at a steeper angle-- this of course would make her strain even more to look up. Hmm.

coffee-black wrote:
#6 Hot spots. Could be my monitor, but it looks like you blew out some skin

#7 I like this, but would have lowered the temp a bit [personal pref]

#12 I would have cropped out the candle and salt shaker rather than his head

#15 Again, I'm getting blown out skin on my monitor. Also, the grooms hand is outside the plane of sharp focus. I don't think I would have used the 300, as the compression makes his hand look like it is coming out of his head. A shorter focal length, with more DOF would have provided a bit more
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I think your monitor is off-- the skin is a bit on the bright side but not blown out on either of my monitors (quasi-calibrated laptop or calibrated LCD at home).

On the question of using the 300mm, the answer was provided above-- I wanted enough image scale on the moon itself to be part of the composition-- without having to photoshop it in. (L-O-L @ Sam "saw to cut a steak") I unfortunately had to photoshop it in. I was in too much of a rush with the couple to properly setup the shot (especially being the 2nd photographer, and the primary was waiting for me to finish up since our contracted time was ending or had ended). They were simply too close to me.. had they been further away, the DOF on the hand would've improved and they would've been much closer to the focal plane of the moon itself. Once I got the lens lined up I realized I had to focus-stack the shot to get them and the moon sharp.

Thanks MC Yorke- I hadn't noticed the wart/ bandaid, I should touch those up.

Thanks Daniel for your comments too. #7 I was torn between the railing overriding the vineyard itself with a lower angle and standing tall where I was. 12 and 14 were with the 24-70, and I agree for all 3 shots that raising the camera a bit or shooting a little wider would've helped. I can blame the heavy 5lb lens for my sagging arm in #10 The idea of my using the 300 is to get candids without the people being aware.. paparazzi mode.. even though the 300 sometimes becomes the Eye of Sauron due to its size.



Jan 06, 2009 at 04:33 PM





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