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p.1 #1 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


I just purchased a 60" Photek Shoot through umbrella and I'm very impressed with its quality. However I purchased a Bogen/Manfroto 001B light stand and it seems like its a little to light weight for the 60".

Am I being too paranoid or am I being stupid putting a 60" Umbrella on the small 001B?

Appreciate any help

Dave



Dec 13, 2008 at 10:06 PM
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p.1 #2 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


I would use a much larger stand for a 60" than the 001B. The largest I feel comfortable on one is around a 40" (like the westcott double folder)

For a 60" umbrella I would look at a 8+ foot height 'sized' light stand would be a better choice. A stand of that size will have a wider leg footprint and more stability.

Edited on Dec 13, 2008 at 11:05 PM · View previous versions



Dec 13, 2008 at 10:31 PM
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p.1 #3 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


You could probably get away with it in a pinch if you don't even think about taking it outdoors and if you've got a little weight (ankle weights are great) to put on the bottom. Then you'd better hold your breath.


Dec 13, 2008 at 11:04 PM
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p.1 #4 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


You'll definitely want something with a wider footprint since the 60" is rather large. I have two of them and use the westcotts.


Dec 15, 2008 at 11:45 AM
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p.1 #5 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Thanks guys! I actually plan on doing a lot of outdoor shoots so I would want something that can handle the wind... any suggestions?


Dec 16, 2008 at 10:45 AM
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p.1 #6 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Recommendations for a stand or an umbrella? It's just a matter of time before you destroy a 60''. 40'' is much safer. For a stand, just find a good, solid one with a wide footprint and bring along sandbags or a Vagabond.


Dec 16, 2008 at 10:47 AM
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p.1 #7 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


For a stand.. so 60" won't cut it outdoors?


Dec 16, 2008 at 10:57 AM
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p.1 #8 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


It will, just be prepared to replace it every few trips. Or you can cut strips out of the umbrella so that it doesn't catch the wind as much. It'll still be a parachute just waiting for a gust to come along, though.


Dec 16, 2008 at 11:00 AM
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p.1 #9 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Mmm I can't believe I didn't think of that, must be too late. What are my other options for soft umbrella type lighting outdoors? Softbox?

As for a stand I was looking atShould be fine right? Or is that overkill?)
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/42130-REG/Photoflex_LS_B2218_LS_2218_Heavyweight_LiteStand_Black_.html

Would this be more suited?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/42137-REG/Photoflex_LS_B2214_LSB_2214_Medium_Weight_LiteStand_.html



Dec 16, 2008 at 11:03 AM
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p.1 #10 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Stick with Bogen or Avenger. I frequently use a 40'' with a mono 9 feet up, weighted with a Vagabond, using a fairly standard Bogen 3333 stand. I'd get a Bogen 367 instead of either of those Photoflex stands, personally. Or if you think you could use a better weight rating, the 307.


Dec 16, 2008 at 11:10 AM
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p.1 #11 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Couldn't find the 3333, how about this one? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/512874-REG/Bogen_Manfrotto_306B_306B_Black_Stacker_Light.html

I'm a sucker for items with reviews on it



Dec 16, 2008 at 11:30 AM
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p.1 #12 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Take a look at the Lowel Grand Stand http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/32097-REG/Lowel_GS_GS_Grand_Stand_Air.html#specifications It has a footprint diameter of 53" (1.35 m). You may not of heard of Lowel, they make lights and stands for motion picture and video production. Good stuff!


Dec 16, 2008 at 11:37 AM
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p.1 #13 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


A couple rules for photographic lighting safety: Getting away with it in a pinch is unsafe and should not be attempted. Make sure your lights are solidly grounded or you can hurt you or anyone around the light. #2, Never use an umbrella outdoors. It's unsafe. Get a brolly box or smaller softbox. #3, invest in some 25# sand bags.


Dec 16, 2008 at 12:06 PM
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p.1 #14 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Look at this one
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253069-REG/Impact_LS_96HAB_Air_Cushioned_Heavy_Duty_Light.html#specifications

Or check Bogen 004/005 BAC, i have that 005BAC, so sturdy and heavy duty enough to keep my strobe [Hensel 1000ws head] with 5" Octabox steady, so with the umbrella it will be like nothing there.



Dec 17, 2008 at 06:44 AM
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p.1 #15 · Stand size for 60" Umbrella


Umbrellas should only be opened outdoors, Cineski what are you trying to do to this poor man, give him back luck!





Dec 19, 2008 at 11:10 AM





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