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p.4 #1 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I had the chance to test the new Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85 ZE and I hardly can imagine that a lens can be a lot better.
On the other hand, this "Polar" goes for a third of the price that a Planar sets you back...



Jan 15, 2009 at 10:27 AM
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p.4 #2 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Cool, I have one on the way, I can't wait!!


Jan 15, 2009 at 11:20 AM
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p.4 #3 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


ovredal73 wrote:
Where did you guys get it at this price? I can´t seem to find any on ebay.


I bought mine in South Korea. That's about the only place where you can get one at a cheap price.

In Europe the Wallimex Pro goes for about 500 euros, the HK dealers are selling them for 450US, and the Australians seems to have it for under 400US.

I wish Samyang would keep their pricing more equal, but I guess they have to play the economies of scale game. Still, someone in Korea should wake up and see the business opportunity of selling this lens in the West at Korean prices.

I'll put up my full review over the weekend.




Jan 16, 2009 at 03:10 AM
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p.4 #4 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


So far, most of the pictures shown here display washed-out colours and weak contrast IMHO. Which is unfortunate, because a new supplier of truly excellent, fast primes at lower-than-market prices would be most welcome.


Jan 17, 2009 at 04:58 AM
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p.4 #5 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


jsv_20 wrote:
I wish Samyang would keep their pricing more equal, but I guess they have to play the economies of scale game. Still, someone in Korea should wake up and see the business opportunity of selling this lens in the West at Korean prices.




I don't think it has anything to do with economies of scale-- but rather marketing. I'm guessing that the Korean price is low for a variety of reasons, including getting enough people to use the lens to create a buzz.

Also, there is no business opportunity someone from Korea selling the lens in the West at Korean prices. At least not unless it comes from the top down.

I've actually got a friend who is considering buying a bunch and trying to sell them here, but I can assure you it wouldn't be much better than the price you can get from Ebay. It costs money to import those things and ship them.

In any case, I'm hoping to find a copy myself.



Jan 17, 2009 at 09:16 AM
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p.4 #6 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Gee, do you think we all are looking for a fast, quality prime at a good price?


Jan 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM
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p.4 #7 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Marketing. You're probably right.

That's why I teach languages not economics.

Anyway, if someone bought this lens wholesale and sold this lens for 280US (current retail price) and charged 55US for shipping they're still making a decent $60US profit.

So there is some money to be made by someone willing enough to go out and buy them and send them from here at decent prices. Now if a wholesaler bought them and sold them overseas, his profit would probably be higher.

Importing them and then selling them, well that's another story.






Jan 18, 2009 at 03:29 AM
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p.4 #8 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


gasrocks:
You can buy them from Gmarket. I have a Korean buddy and he explained to me that it is essentially the same as Amazon/Ebay. They have different sellers and when you buy an item from a seller, the seller sends it to Gmarket, who then sends it to you.
I got mine for around $300, the price changes every day because of currency conversion. A few days later it was the same price in wan, but it had dropped to $285, oh well. Then it is about $25-$30 in shipping and taxes.
I found one that had less shipping than another, but then when Gmarket got their hands on it and weighed it, they notified me that I had to pay another $6 in shipping (It isn't a scam on Gmarkets part, they advertise that they will do that).
You can pay with paypal, or get a credit card verified so you can pay with one, or you can use paypal to credit your Gmarket account and pay with the credit.

This isn't meant to be an ad for Gmarket, just explaining it, the whole system took me a few days of almost buying the item before I felt that I understood the system and all purchasing options enough to make a purchase from a foreign country. Especially one with such a language barrier. You will see a lot of broken english on the site making it seem like a scam site, but ebay just bought a large stake in them, they are the largest retail site in Korea.

Good luck if you buy one. Even the international site has some korean on it, mostly from the sellers. I had my friend assist me when looking at the site. The customer service isn't terrible either. I had questions, so I sent them some messages through their site, and they gave me some ok responses in broken english.



Jan 18, 2009 at 08:46 AM
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p.4 #9 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


This is the wholesaler I used from Gmarket.

http://www.gmarket.co.kr/challenge/neo_goods/goods.asp?goodscode=155724929&pos_shop_cd=SH&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&keyword_order=polar+85mm+f1.4&search_keyword=polar%2085mm%20f1.4

He's on the Korean side of the site. I actually went to his store, and he had quite a few Polar boxes sitting around. This is probably the best deal you'll find (360,000W +shipping).

In store you can actually get it for 340-345,000W, depending on how well you haggle, and if you're paying in cash (they all prefer cash).

I'd help you fellows out, but work keeps me pretty busy.



Jan 18, 2009 at 04:10 PM
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p.4 #10 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


hi all,
today my confirm chips (ebay big-is) did arrive and i glued them on the mount.
will post some pictures later this week.

a short comparison with my EF 85/1,8 USM was very very promising.
i will make a little pixel peeping later this week.

cheers
reinhard



Jan 20, 2009 at 04:04 PM
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p.4 #11 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I've updated the review, and included 100% crops of the brick wall images.

http://www.jsvfoto.com/Home/faqs/nikkor85mmf14aisvspolar85mmf14/nikkorpolarreview

I'll add more pictures this weekend.



Jan 21, 2009 at 06:17 AM
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p.4 #12 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Man those transitions make it hard to tell the exposure difference between the lenses.


Jan 21, 2009 at 06:32 AM
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p.4 #13 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


That lens actually looks very promising compared to the 1.4 ai-s!


Jan 21, 2009 at 07:15 AM
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p.4 #14 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I finally got mine yesterday and can confirm that it is razor sharp! It is hard to focus with the 5D in low light, but I have a focus confirm chip on the way.


Jan 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM
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p.4 #15 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


jsv_20 wrote:
I've updated the review, and included 100% crops of the brick wall images.

http://www.jsvfoto.com/Home/faqs/nikkor85mmf14aisvspolar85mmf14/nikkorpolarreview

I'll add more pictures this weekend.



Wow...
Polar looks really good compared to the Nikkor.
The sharpness and bokeh is way better.



Jan 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM
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p.4 #16 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


jsv_20 wrote:
I've updated the review, and included 100% crops of the brick wall images.

http://www.jsvfoto.com/Home/faqs/nikkor85mmf14aisvspolar85mmf14/nikkorpolarreview

I'll add more pictures this weekend.


It's great that you've gone to this effort, but can you put up a review without the flash? Many browsers cannot see flash, and even if one is using a browser that can, the flash really gets in the way of presenting the data. In particular, it forces the viewer to either sit through the slideshows, or to manually click through them. In either case it prevents taking in the information in a sweep, and the exasperating flash fade out / fade in between frames inhibits "blink" comparison.



Jan 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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p.4 #17 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


If you click on the Iris (Picasa logo) at the bottom right hand corner of the player, it will change the screen and give you an option near the top that allows you to go to the album that contains the full sized images.

Once you arrive at the album you can set the size at which you want to view the images by moving the slider at the top. Alternatively, you could download the original files and compare them on your own program.

That's all I can do help you out.



Jan 21, 2009 at 06:57 PM
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p.4 #18 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


hi all,
i did make a short story of my adding a confirm chip
on cogitech forum.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

r schneider



Jan 25, 2009 at 02:15 PM
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p.4 #19 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Your photos don't show up at cogitech. That sounds like a fun project by the way you describe it.

But I'm curious why you got a confirmation chip, as opposed to a focusing screen?

Anyway, let us know what your findings are regarding the Polar.

My review of that lens is done. I have found it to be pretty decent lens for the money, though it does come with a few trade offs. Then again the Nikkor is also decent, but with other trade offs. There's no such thing as a perfect lens, just what works best for you.

Thanks for sharing your project.

I'm still looking for something to work on over the summer. I almost had my hands on a broken Nikkor 50 f1.4 with oily blades, but I missed the auction.

Anyone out there have any hazy glass or something with oily blades you'd be willing to let go? Looking for F mount lenses only, and they don't have to be Nikkors.






Jan 26, 2009 at 04:23 AM
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p.4 #20 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1030&message=31403989



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