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Archive 2008 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical

  
 
Sam N
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p.2 #1 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I'm not a big fan of the color, but it could just be that one user's post-production. Either way this is a very promising lens. Hopefully we'll have another strong competitor in the 3rd party lens business.


Dec 09, 2008 at 07:15 PM
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p.2 #2 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Polar also makes 500mm mirror lenses that are sold in many ebay shops. (Thus it seems that they make cheap stuff...) I wouldn't buy this lens until there are solid reviews showing its performance.


Dec 10, 2008 at 08:04 AM
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p.2 #3 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Looks like the lens is deliberately designed with undercorrected spherical aberattion for good bokeh. That aspherical element compensates giving a small amount of bright ring.

...I reckon. Very interesting compromise. Could be a perfect portrait lens.



Dec 10, 2008 at 08:37 AM
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p.2 #4 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Though I am not shopping for lenses this one picked my curiosity, it looks very promising.

There is a question mark for sample variation, nowadays I don't buy lenses unseen - but I will be watching the progress on this particular lens.




Dec 10, 2008 at 01:31 PM
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p.2 #5 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I often like uncorrected lenses, but I would rather buy old. I just posted some Biotar 75 1.5 in the "admirable blur" thread. That lens is somewhat more expensive than the Polar, but others are less expensive. The Helios should be considered with the polar too. I don't know Russian lenses, but they copied a lot of the old zeiss designs. Probably all kinds of funky bokeh available.


Dec 10, 2008 at 01:56 PM
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p.2 #6 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I looked at the polar link. Talk about a Nikon copy! Even the plastic texture. The MTF isn't bad for the price, but I wonder what percent of lenses will be close to those statistics.

How do I join SLRclub? What language do I need to learn? Those guys know how to review lenses. I feel left out.



Dec 10, 2008 at 02:02 PM
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p.2 #7 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


The design of the Polar/Samyang 85mm 1.4 is not a copy of the Nikon. It is a new design that incoporates an aspherical element in it's optical design. The only other fast 85mm lens that has such an element to my knowledge is the Canon 85mm 1.2 L. Asperhrical elements go a long way in insuring high optical quality at full aperture. The Zeiss ZF and ZE 85mm 1.4 does not use an aspherical element in it's design. The Polar/Samyang lens seems to be a newer more advanced optical design then the current offering from Zeiss and at considerably less cost. The Canon is in a class by itself though at a considerably higher price and weight. The Koreans seem to have finally picked up the mantle in producing innovative professional grade hi-speed 85mm optic at a highly competitive affordable price. We can only hope that this lens becomes readily available at a similar affordable price outside of Korea.


Dec 10, 2008 at 03:41 PM
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p.2 #8 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


With price of $275 or less, it may be one of the best bargain lens out there.

However, as the reviewer mentioned, I just wish they get rid of that gold plate at the tip of the lens. It makes the lens look cheapy.



Dec 10, 2008 at 04:09 PM
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p.2 #9 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Paul, you can read Hangul, very cool! It seems placing a gold plate on a lens has a history. The first time I saw it was on a Tamron 180mm 2.5 LD SP Anniversary lens I bought many moons ago and have to this day although it is sitting in a closet. Nikon has several lenses with gold plates. I guess gold plates signify a certain "specialness". If I could get a Polar 85mm 1.4 for $275, I have no problem with an added gold plate.


Dec 10, 2008 at 05:15 PM
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p.2 #10 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


This looks promising. And the IQ in the comparison shot with ZF 1.4/85 is very convincing, despite not knowing the parameters. At the price of $275, this might make me abandon my own promise of no GAS for the next 6 months. I am really looking forward for real world test of production copy. The review had better be soon, as I have friends going back to Korea for the holidays whom I can ask to carry one back to the states.


Dec 10, 2008 at 08:16 PM
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p.2 #11 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


dcmiller wrote:
I often like uncorrected lenses, but I would rather buy old. I just posted some Biotar 75 1.5 in the "admirable blur" thread. That lens is somewhat more expensive than the Polar, but others are less expensive. The Helios should be considered with the polar too. I don't know Russian lenses, but they copied a lot of the old zeiss designs. Probably all kinds of funky bokeh available.


I have Helios-40 85mm f1.5 (Silver), old version. Along with this, I also own Jupiter-9 85mm f2 Silver (Rangefinder lens, converted to M42 SLR mount, I haven't seen any other like that).

One thing I want to say about these Russian, these are really prone to flare. About Helios, its almost unusable in sunlight, and I am not talking about Sun in the background. The internal reflections make the lens unusable. Still you can get good shot with this lens in outdoor.

About Jupiter (I am talking about old version), again prone to flare.But once in its form... Jupiter is an evil for auto focus crowd...

These are my Jupiter shots,

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Just because of flare issue, I end up buying Leica Elmarit-R 90mm f2.8. You need some reliable tool in outdoors



Dec 10, 2008 at 08:33 PM
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p.2 #12 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


I found another review of the polar, though I have no idea what they're comparing.

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=newproduct_nikon&page=1&sn1=&sid1=&divpage=7&sn=off&sid=on&ss=off&sc=off&keyword=slrdica&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=40770




Dec 11, 2008 at 03:22 AM
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p.2 #13 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Some more sample images:

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=sigma_forum&no=68204

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=samsung_forum&no=91596

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=fuji_s1pro_forum&no=176759



Dec 11, 2008 at 03:36 AM
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p.2 #14 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


jsv_20 wrote:
I found another review of the polar, though I have no idea what they're comparing.

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=newproduct_nikon&page=1&sn1=&sid1=&divpage=7&sn=off&sid=on&ss=off&sc=off&keyword=slrdica&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=40770


"P" for Polar, "C" for Carl Zeiss, the new ZF. He's very surprised at the results; so surprised that he tested many times. He was all fluttery when he bought the Zeiss. He's had no problems with it, and he plans to use it happily in the future. But the Polar lens is "making his mind tremble" (kinda like butterflies in your stomach on a first date). The rest is all emotional commentary without mention of lens performance.



Dec 11, 2008 at 04:17 AM
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p.2 #15 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Steven...
You're in Korea.
Why don't you try the lens, (not necessarily buy) and let us know how it is...



Dec 11, 2008 at 08:41 AM
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p.2 #16 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


kosmoskatten wrote:
Though I am not shopping for lenses this one picked my curiosity, it looks very promising.

There is a question mark for sample variation, nowadays I don't buy lenses unseen - but I will be watching the progress on this particular lens.


The word is 'piqued'. I realize english is probably your second or third language, so I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just help out.



Dec 11, 2008 at 09:19 AM
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p.2 #17 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


wrath: yup, English is my third language, though I did know that it is supposed to be "piqued" instead of "picked". It was just one of those "all typing and no thinking" days.
I did not even realize the error until you corrected me. Thanks.

One thing I have a hard time with is when to use "z" instead of "s" in words like specialize and such. Help me out pleaze.



Dec 11, 2008 at 11:41 AM
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p.2 #18 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


jsv_20 wrote:
Some more sample images:

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=sigma_forum&no=68204



I wonder what's with that green tint around the guy in the background, newspaper, on the staircase and the cracks in the granite wall. Could that be the camera or the lens?



Dec 11, 2008 at 01:02 PM
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p.2 #19 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


Silentlight wrote:
I wonder what's with that green tint around the guy in the background, newspaper, on the staircase and the cracks in the granite wall. Could that be the camera or the lens?


An 85/1.4 for USD275 can't be without errors... My guess is we are looking at Longitudinal CA. If it is seen at that low contrast it may be a problem in many images. You can see it in a couple of the other images as well, especially around dark things in the background.



Dec 11, 2008 at 02:29 PM
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p.2 #20 · Polar 85mm 1.4 Aspherical


It's called selective colouring. Very much in demand with some clients.


Dec 11, 2008 at 02:31 PM
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