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tanglefoot47
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p.1 #1 · New camera with count?


Why would a brand new camera show up at my door today with 540 count? I put a card in it and did a format. I then went outside and took a few shots, put the card in the PC didn't notice at first then I was looking at my shots closer and I happened to see this

Mike



Oct 23, 2008 at 09:17 PM
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p.1 #2 · New camera with count?


tanglefoot47 wrote:
Why would a brand new camera show up at my door today with 540 count? I put a card in it and did a format. I then went outside and took a few shots, put the card in the PC didn't notice at first then I was looking at my shots closer and I happened to see this

Mike


Because the camera picks up the number from the card to prevent overwrites when you copy the files to your computer.



Oct 23, 2008 at 09:42 PM
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jerrykur wrote:
Because the camera picks up the number from the card to prevent overwrites when you copy the files to your computer.


But the card had over 600 count on it the last time I used it.



Oct 23, 2008 at 09:44 PM
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p.1 #4 · New camera with count?


When you are reviewing the pics on your camera before you ever DL them to the computer, what does the LCD screen say?

Does it say 100-0540, or similar?

Sounds strange...maybe the camera was used as a demo in a store before it was sold to you and the File Numbering option wasn't reset before it was shipped out?




Oct 23, 2008 at 10:28 PM
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Mattbtn wrote:
Maybe the camera was used as a demo in a store before it was sold to you and the File Numbering option wasn't reset before it was shipped out?


This sounds like the most likely possibility. Unless you intentionally like to mess up the file count system on a body, I would suggest using a blank card, which has been previously formatted, before putting it in the body. As using a card, with a pre-existing count, is going to change the shutter count on your body, to whatever is on the card, if the card is higher, than the shutter count on the body.



Oct 23, 2008 at 10:39 PM
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p.1 #6 · New camera with count?


My Xti shows a much high count than it actually has. I borrowed one of my wifes CF cards from here digital rebel while we were on vacation and in jumped my count way up. Could be what happened.


Oct 23, 2008 at 11:06 PM
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Have you ever thought that canon might have some QC, and it tests the cameras? This does not mean that 500 some photos were taken with your camera, but it feeds along with Jerry's point.

Imagine that the canon QC person places a CF card into the camera at the factory, and takes a few photos to make sure everything is okay. The camera picks up the file numbering from the card that has been used a lot in the testing room. If the file numbering isn't reset, you might get a high shot count.

We've had a few customers buy cameras, then give a very angry phone call thinking that they were sold a used camera. That's just the way they come from the factory at times.



Oct 23, 2008 at 11:08 PM
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Ben Horne wrote:
Have you ever thought that canon might have some QC, and it tests the cameras? This does not mean that 500 some photos were taken with your camera, but it feeds along with Jerry's point.

Imagine that the canon QC person places a CF card into the camera at the factory, and takes a few photos to make sure everything is okay. The camera picks up the file numbering from the card that has been used a lot in the testing room. If the file numbering isn't reset, you might get a high shot count.

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Actually I have thought of this because I am sure they (Canon) do grab camera's off the line and test them. Most of the time when one gets a new camera or lens you can tell if it's been used. the way the thing is packaged, smears on teh LCD screen and I didn't see this. I also have bought many times from this dealer and never once did I have an issue with him. I also sent a email out to him tonight and he assured me it is a totally new camera never used, not a return, he does not sell camera's that come back to him with issues he sends them to Canon. this person I am certain would never do this so my mind is now at total ease now.



Oct 23, 2008 at 11:26 PM
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Ben Horne wrote:
Have you ever thought that canon might have some QC, and it tests the cameras? This does not mean that 500 some photos were taken with your camera, but it feeds along with Jerry's point.

Imagine that the canon QC person places a CF card into the camera at the factory, and takes a few photos to make sure everything is okay. The camera picks up the file numbering from the card that has been used a lot in the testing room. If the file numbering isn't reset, you might get a high shot count.

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I have never heard of that. I would think that Canon would reset any/all counters if it did do an off-the-line test. Do you have any literature to support that possibility? I would suspect that the store did some type of demo with the camera



Oct 24, 2008 at 10:12 AM
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Ed Peters wrote:
I have never heard of that. I would think that Canon would reset any/all counters if it did do an off-the-line test. Do you have any literature to support that possibility? I would suspect that the store did some type of demo with the camera


That's odd, I believe you just heard that from me. :-) You say that you would think that canon would reset the counters ---- Hell, I would too. Like anything, there is a human element involved. Who says that they reset every counter? I'm not sure I need to write a book on this subject, I'm simply going on my experiences with seeing several such cameras. Your theory of the store doing a demo with a camera is a false assumption if a camera has never been opened. We had a customer buy a 40D kit with 17-85mm lens --- it's a sealed box. The shot counter was not on zero when the camera was fired up for the first time, and it was a brand new lens. The last person to touch the camera was a Canon employee at the factory.



Oct 25, 2008 at 03:16 PM
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p.1 #11 · New camera with count?


Car dealers don't reset the counters (ok, maybe bad example).


Oct 25, 2008 at 08:15 PM
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p.1 #12 · New camera with count?


My 1Ds came with 9976 on the counter, my 1Ds3 with a similarly absurd number. I don't think someone opened my box and spent the night taking pictures.


Oct 25, 2008 at 09:11 PM
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Jason Houck wrote:
My Xti shows a much high count than it actually has. I borrowed one of my wifes CF cards from here digital rebel while we were on vacation and in jumped my count way up. Could be what happened.


Jason, There are a number of ways to reset your counter. Here's one:

1. Make a note of the folder name & file name of the last "official" shot you took
2. Set your camera "file numbering" to "Auto reset"
3. Format a card in the camera (the count will now be zero)
4. Take a shot
5. Set your camera "file numbering" back to "Continuous"
6. Using a card reader, rename the folder & file name to the values previously noted
7. Put the card into the camera and take a shot. It will now be back on track.



Oct 25, 2008 at 09:23 PM
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Jim Healey wrote:
Jason, There are a number of ways to reset your counter. Here's one:

1. Make a note of the folder name & file name of the last "official" shot you took
2. Set your camera "file numbering" to "Auto reset"
3. Format a card in the camera (the count will now be zero)
4. Take a shot
5. Set your camera "file numbering" back to "Continuous"
6. Using a card reader, rename the folder & file name to the values previously noted
7. Put the card into the camera and take a shot. It will now be back on track.

hey thanks I will have to try that considering that it is probably off by 5000 shots or more.



Oct 25, 2008 at 09:47 PM
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p.1 #15 · New camera with count?


No problem Jason.

This is a situation I frequently have to deal with when someone else uses one of my cameras. I try to avoid it by explaining & lending then a couple of blank cards ... but it still happens.



Oct 25, 2008 at 10:14 PM





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