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Archive 2008 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

When I was researching buying this lens I remember reading that its only for use with x0D cameras...why?

Oct 10, 2008 at 12:41 AM

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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

It has a smaller image circle. It will physically mount to a 5D just fine, but you will get heavy vignetting. It's the same basic design as the Tokina 12-24, another lens designed for crop only cameras. However, some full frame users still use it as it stops vignetting at 17mm. Since the range is so short on the 11-16 don't expect it to be usable in any part of it's range.
If someone has tried it, you may want to chime in to prove my point, or say I'm wrong.

Oct 10, 2008 at 12:47 AM

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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

in theory lenses like this should fill stop vignetting at the equiv focal lenght of the crop camera eg 12-24 12*1.6 =19.2 so it should be ok from about 19 (or a bit less)
the 11-16 doesn't go long enough to do this so will probably vignett all the way or maybe could be used at the long end.
however it should fit the 5d ok as its an ef mount not an efs which would foul the mirror.

Oct 10, 2008 at 01:07 AM

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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

You can use it, but as the previous posters said, you will get heavy vignetting.

However, you can crop

Oct 10, 2008 at 03:24 AM

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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

You can use it. I remember a review that showed it used on a FF. You can only use it around the 14-16mm range I believe.

Oct 10, 2008 at 03:32 AM

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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

Ken Rockwell has example shots of this lens on full frame here:

Ken Rockwell Review

From Ken's review it covers full frame at 15mm and 16mm.

Oct 10, 2008 at 04:03 AM

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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

The "vignetting" is caused by the permanent lens hood. It's possible, though a royal pain to remove it, as it has to be cut off.

The image circle IS smaller than a 35mm sensor, but then a wide fisheye is supposed to be. On the Sigma 8mm, for example, the image is completely circular.

Oct 10, 2008 at 07:18 AM

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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

ericvgill wrote:
The "vignetting" is caused by the permanent lens hood. It's possible, though a royal pain to remove it, as it has to be cut off.

The image circle IS smaller than a 35mm sensor, but then a wide fisheye is supposed to be. On the Sigma 8mm, for example, the image is completely circular.

I think your thinking about the 10-17 fisheye 3.5-4.5 which has a hood built in
http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/atx107afdx-a.html

the lens the OP was talking about is the 11-16 2.8 which has a removeable hood and is a corrected lens not a fisheye
http://www.tokinalens.com/products/tokina/atx116prodx-a.html

Oct 10, 2008 at 07:26 AM

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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

Just for an alternative for the 5d - the Sigma 12-24 does full frame ... and keeps straight lines straight, too. Fisheye is extreme barrel distortion. This lens has none. - actually I think it is the widest non fish FF lens made...

Oct 10, 2008 at 07:49 AM

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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

I just tried the 11-16 on my 1D3 last night(1.3 crop), and while it wasn't usable at 11mm, 12 and up seemed quite good. Great lens(I actually bought for my 30d).

Oct 10, 2008 at 08:20 AM

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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

Yes, I have the 'Tokie' 11-16 that I purchased originally to use on my 10D but it is usable @ 16mm on my 5D. The corners are a bit soft even stopped down but if you crop in just a little bit it is just as good on FF @ 16mm as it is on a crop @ 11mm. Basically I used it as an 11mm prime on a 1.6 crop and a 16mm prime on FF. If I had the $$, I would just get the the Canon 14mmL but the 'Tokie' serves my needs for the time being.

Omar

Oct 10, 2008 at 10:25 AM

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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

I had the same question a few weeks ago...

Gil_W posted a picture of his 11-16 on a 1Ds III for those who would like an example.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/672508/0?keyword=Tokina,11-16#6008409

Oct 10, 2008 at 03:52 PM

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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

hmmm, seems like it would make more sense to sell the 11-16 and look at either the 16-35 or 17-40 when I buy a 5DII.

Oct 10, 2008 at 04:58 PM

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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

The 11-16 is a wonderful lens IMO, on a 1.6 crop body. The pic I did with the lens on my 1Ds did not look all that good, quality wise. On the 40d, the pics are great. To be honest though, I did not set images taken with both cameras side by side. I also noticed a similar thing when I tried the Tokina 12-24 on my 1DmkIIn.
I may be all wet here, and may be proven wrong, but that was the way it appeared to me by just glancing at the images.

I will say, the image produced at 14mm on the 40D with the 11-16 is about equal in quality as the 14L mkII, which I also have (for FF).

Gil

Oct 10, 2008 at 05:24 PM

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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

Tokina 11-16 on a 5D at 14+mm. Note the lens hood at the top of the frame. At >15mm it's fine. Hardly a zoom but a very sharp UW.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2906577231_5ab9e3127e_b.jpg

Oct 11, 2008 at 06:57 AM

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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

Yes, that is a good sharp and colorful image, but that seems to be a lot more distortion then I get with the 1.6 crop bodies. The lack of distortion is really a very good attribute of the 11-16, on a 1.6 crop.

Gil

Oct 11, 2008 at 07:34 AM

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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

What distortion? Are you talking about the keystoning? If so, that's a function of the width and the angle of the camera, not lens distortion.

Oct 11, 2008 at 07:40 AM

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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

5D Tokina 11-16 @15mm no vignetting 15mm>

Gil_W most of the distortion you see is from the camera angled up at about 45 deg.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2930823133_9f1fd03095_b.jpg

Oct 11, 2008 at 07:45 AM

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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · What makes my Tokina 11-16 incompatible with a 5d?

I stand corrected, bad use of words, keystoning it is. Ok, can understand the keystoning it if you had a 45 degree on he camera, any wide will do it then.

Gil

Oct 11, 2008 at 07:57 AM


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