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Andre Labonte
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p.2 #1 · 28-70 vs 24-70


rjk55425 wrote:
Its not if you have a 14-24



this is true. However, I buy a lens for a paticular purpose and don't worry about over-lap or gaps. To me a 24-70 is a mid-range or street zoom used for just about everything under the sun. When I'm using such a lens, I'm often in a situation where switching lenses is not an option.

A 14-24 is a landscape / story-telling lens for me. I only want to switch to it when I absolutely need to, not as a matter of course.

Of course all this is mute, as I am a DX shoot and don't care to have either of these lenses on that format.



Oct 12, 2008 at 02:43 PM
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p.2 #2 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I am a recent convert to Nikon and use a D700. Over the years, I have I run a standard series of tests with all my lenses, shooting wide open and one stop down at the wide and telephoto ends of the lens. I have seen something with the 28-70 that I have never seen before in any other lens tested and not sure if its a major concern since its most visible when viewing at 100%. The lens is sharp enough wide open at both ends but when I photograph small print, the color of the font is not right at f2.8, kind of purple, at high contrast edges.

Everything looks as I would expect at 28mm, here are 2 shots at f2.8 and f4.0:
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259820.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259821.jpg

But the results are very different at 70mm, these 2 shots are also at f2.8 and 4.0. You don't see this problem as dramatically in the larger text above the small print put there is a faint purple edge around the text. It does improve when stopping down but is definitely visible in shots at 2.8:
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259824.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259825.jpg

Now in this series of shots, you can see the purple fringing around the Nikon letters but it disappears at f4:
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259930.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259931.jpg

And when I shoot larger text, its less noticeable (again f2.8, then f4):
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259828.jpg
http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/259829.jpg

I was hoping this issue would be less noticeable with real world shots but it is visible at 100% viewing, this is f2.8 at 70mm:

http://www.mustangmods.com/ims/u/95/13344/260202.jpg



Oct 19, 2008 at 09:14 AM
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p.2 #3 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I have the 28-70 f/2.8, and its a great lens. For the price, it was an awesome deal! And the 4mm difference does not bother me.



Oct 19, 2008 at 01:03 PM
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p.2 #4 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I have had both. Flare was horrible with the 28-70mm, but the 24-70mm copy I have does not suffer from flare at all. The 24-70mm feels more balanced/streamlined than the 28-70mm, but optically both are the best there is. I needed the extra 4mm till I got the D700, now its an added extra. I will be looking for a used 28-70mm RSN to go on the D700 while the 24-70mm goes back on the D2X and later the D3X.


Oct 19, 2008 at 05:26 PM
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Grognard wrote:
I have had both. Flare was horrible with the 28-70mm, but the 24-70mm copy I have does not suffer from flare at all. The 24-70mm feels more balanced/streamlined than the 28-70mm, but optically both are the best there is. I needed the extra 4mm till I got the D700, now its an added extra. I will be looking for a used 28-70mm RSN to go on the D700 while the 24-70mm goes back on the D2X and later the D3X.


This is interesting. I too, have a 28-70 which has unwelcome flare. I had to reshoot a job because of it. When the 24-70 first came out, I asked for input about flare comparisons and all that responded said that there was little difference. I guess I'll have to rent a 24-70 and do some side by side flare tests.



Oct 19, 2008 at 06:07 PM
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p.2 #6 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I can't post them here, but I shot quite a few directly into the sun down at Corpus Christi two weeks ago with NO FLARE AT ALL! This compared to the 28-70mm which suffered terribly from flare issues. Try here for the shots (as Murph);


Kerry Pierce wrote:
This is interesting. I too, have a 28-70 which has unwelcome flare. I had to reshoot a job because of it. When the 24-70 first came out, I asked for input about flare comparisons and all that responded said that there was little difference. I guess I'll have to rent a 24-70 and do some side by side flare tests.

http://www.texasphotoforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84079&page=2



Oct 19, 2008 at 09:38 PM
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p.2 #7 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Thanks for the link, Grognard, but apparently I can't access the page without signing up to become a member.


Oct 20, 2008 at 01:28 PM
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p.2 #8 · 28-70 vs 24-70


i have owned them both and there is a big difference in the size of the barrels. the 24-70 focuses significantly faster than my 28-70 did as well... as for sharpness pretty even i would say.


Oct 20, 2008 at 05:02 PM
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p.2 #9 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I have never noticed a flare problem with the 28-70, what am I doing right?


Oct 26, 2008 at 04:14 PM
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p.2 #10 · 28-70 vs 24-70


I miss my 28-70mm so much, I am going to buy another to complement the 24-70mm and use it on the D700, and the 24-70mm on the D2X.


Nov 01, 2008 at 07:16 PM
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p.2 #11 · 28-70 vs 24-70


rjk55425 wrote:
I have seen something with the 28-70 that I have never seen before in any other lens tested and not sure if its a major concern since its most visible when viewing at 100%. The lens is sharp enough wide open at both ends but when I photograph small print, the color of the font is not right at f2.8, kind of purple, at high contrast edges.


rjk55425, your copy appears to be suffering from a type of misalignment that causes one range of the color spectrum not to be focused precisely in same plane at 70mm. It's a type of CA, but it is likley due to the mechanical misalignment, not optical design.

I had a similar problem with a Canon 50 1.4; my lens showed red-orange ghosting at 1.4. I sent it to CPS for adjustment and it became one of the sharpest 50's I have used.

I strongly suspect Nikon can repair your lens if you clearly explain the problem and provide samples.



Nov 02, 2008 at 10:41 AM
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p.2 #12 · 28-70 vs 24-70


The 28-70 Isn't weather sealed is it?

I'm also looking at getting one of these lenses if I get A D700.






Nov 02, 2008 at 10:48 AM
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p.2 #13 · 28-70 vs 24-70


Thanks for the input Garyvot, I will have them check it out.

Randy



Nov 02, 2008 at 07:52 PM
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