But I guess according to you ducss I apparently have no right to claim my Mark III is working just fine since I obviously do not shoot in the types of conditions you talk about. And if I recall, Vincent Laforet took more than a few Mark III's to the recent Beijing Olympics. Poor guy didn't have a clue . . .
ducss wrote:
Please, take a grow up pill, will ya? I looked at your website and low and behold, you don't seem to shoot in the situations were the Mark III fails. Yet, you're an expert about the Mark IIIs failing. Why was I not surprised?
Once again, the childish talk isn't something that's tolerated around here. But back to the topic: My original Mk3 did fail, in fact I had to send it in to Canon twice. But after the submirror fix it now works as advertised. So yes, I am an "expert" on the issue, as you stated.
wow these are great captures i would kill to get that from my 1Dmk 111
here is another capture from today i just wish my camera was this good all the time
Camera Model Name
Canon EOS-1D Mark III
Firmware
Firmware Version 1.2.3
Shooting Date/Time
10/3/2008 16:54:13
Tv(Shutter Speed)
1/125Sec.
Av(Aperture Value)
F8.0
Metering Modes
Evaluative metering
Exposure Compensation
0
ISO Speed
100
Lens
EF135mm f/2L USM
Focal Length
135.0 mm
Image size
3888 x 2592
Image Quality
RAW
Flash
On
White Balance
Color temperature
AF mode
One-Shot AF
Picture Style
Standard
ducss wrote:
Apparently you can't read. Par for the course for a fanboy.
You mean this quote from your other post:
. . . seldom, if ever, use their Mark IIIs in the situations where it FAILS REPEATEDLY. I'd recommend that the fanboys get out in the field and talk to the people who know the facts, and see the evidence for themselves. . .
Yeah, I read it that's why I thought I would post some shots of me out in the field using the Mark III for myself.
Jack Heckaman wrote:
Alot of the issues with the Mark III came from people who bought it, did not know how to use it, then read it had problems so they returned it because " they must have a bad camera too". I am soooo tired of these post where the bashing continues by people who do not know how to use the things they buy.
I will say this again
The number of satisfied MKIII users with good units far outweighs the number of dissatisfied users. The stress, dissapointment and strength of feeling exepreinced by those few is immeasurable.
So. Jack. Take a step back for a second buddy. Put on a different set of glasses and imagine for a second that you where completely wrong. Can you see how your post might be construed as inflammatory?
This heated debate goes on - its because of people out there that have a good one or dont really push it that hard and assume therefore that everyone else must be muppets.
BTW Jack, do you own a MKIII?
Would you like to trade mine with me for a while?
The number of satisfied MKIII users with good units far outweighs the number of dissatisfied users. The stress, dissapointment and strength of feeling exepreinced by those few is immeasurable.
So. Jack. Take a step back for a second buddy. Put on a different set of glasses and imagine for a second that you where completely wrong. What sort of a reaction would you expect?
Posts like yours inflame things and are exactly why this heated debate goes on - its because of the ignorant fanboys out there that have a good one or dont really push it that hard and assume that everyone else must be muppets....Show more →
Although I do think that Jack might have possibly worded it differently I do have to give some credence to what he said. I was initially very concerned after my first two shoots with my new Mark III. I thought for certain that all the negative comments concerning this camera were true. In comparison to what I had been getting previously from my Mark II's I was very disappointed with what I saw. However, I discovered over the subsequent weeks that the more I used the camera, and the more I tweaked the settings the better things got.
With that said, I can't really deny that many people had lots of problems with the Mark III. Many high-level professionals have talked about it, many people have tested it, and Canon did finally admit it . . . sort of. I can say with all honesty that I would have been royally pissed had I dropped that kind of money on a high tech doorstop. For the record, I'm no fanboy. I actually shot nothing but Nikon bodies all my life until two years ago. Honestly, I miss my Nikon FE2, F3HP, and especially my F5 (but not the D2Hs). As much as I miss those bodies they are simply tools to me and if Canon simply couldn't fit my needs anymore I'd have to look seriously at Nikon again.
I have to agree with quadrap " has to be the economy" that you guys are going crazy out here. Btw great pictures !!! MkIII clearly rocks IN THE RIGHT HANDS !! Btw, the OP SUCKS....as ever ! Gpeterson needs to give up that MarkIII. Any takers?
I live in the Arizona desert. I've tested mine in heat, bright light, almost dark, still shots, shots of moving objects, One Shot and AI servo. It just works.
Gary. was the mkIII meant for these type of photos ? Except for the clouds..nothing is moving in that picture.....but overall, good pp, nice job with the contrast adjustment, n levels tweak. am sur, your dusty 20D can do the same job.
stockriderman wrote:
I don't see ANY reasons why anyone would consider buying a 1D MarkIII camera over 5D MarkII Was it Canon intention to introduce this camera for people to change over from 1D. I mean, 1D III was sort of a failure,with all the photographers complaining about focusing issues that it has. If 5D doesn't have the same issues, it seems to me nobody would be buying 1D series bodies.
And another one bites the dust and gets the red [x]. Thanks, Fred, Guardian, or whoever.
Beautiful shots guys (regardless of what camera they came from). Can't we all just get along ? I come to FM Forums for interesting news and for juicy knowledge and respectful conversations among people who share my common interest and passion. People that understand enough to actually talk about all this stuff with. I don't come here for what this thread has become. Forgive me but I'm really failing to see what purpose this thread could possibly serve. I move to nominate it for worst Canon thread of the year. Anyone with me ?
In response to David Baldwin who rephrased the OP's question differently. Yeah, I think the 5D II does look like a lot of value for the money (when you put it that way). Bearing those specs definitely makes the game more interesting in comparison. Does it make the top models look over priced ? Perhaps, but again it's hard to compare easily. Had the OP phrased questions like this to begin with I think it might have been a significantly less bumpy ride in here. Reasons to buy a 1D over anything else really should not have changed much just because the new 5D is out. Suddenly however, there could be good reason to complement a 1DIII with a 5DII, but not replace. The 5D is going to be a heck of a value (esp when it hits the used market) and neither camera is anything to laugh at in the least but I will NOT take one over my 1D III.
Regarding the Mark III my opinion of it rests in it's current state after the "fix" and all the firmware updates. It also rests solely in my own uses. I can't speak for any other person or situation because I'm not the one shooting there. I don't doubt for a minute that people had problems when they came out. Reading all that scared me. But I'm not talking about then, I'm talking about now. I admit I was quite nervous about getting a good body or a bad one when I made the investment. In the end, I do not regret the purchase at all and I now feel I can depend on my 1D. If I couldn't I would have a serious problem and chances are I would not still be shooting with it.
So, why do we always see so much of peoples time and energy invested in endless fighting over various things including the final perspective on the 1D Mark III ? Maybe the tarnished beginning makes it all to easy for people to cling to negatives so much quicker than they even try to look at positives. (no photography pun intended) Particularly the people that don't even shoot with them. Hey, I want my camera to perform with the best of them too for that kind of money so I too am quick to examine it closer. Sometimes when my head has been filled with the ideas on this forum I feel doubt ambling it's way into the back of my mind when faced with so much hate people have come to harbor for the Mark III's past. Then I find myself looking at the images this camera has made and all the things I admired it for before the honeymoon wore off and my faith is restored quickly because I realize I do not share in the horror stories and I move on with my life. I'm really sorry if me being actually happy with *my* Mark III right now is unacceptable to some people. I can't vouch for anyone else's experience.
I don't consider myself a fanboy at all and I don't always shoot Canon. I don't feel good about having that kind of offensive stereotype thrown in my direction. If I personally and many others don't use the camera in situations in which it "fails repeatedly" then where is our problem ? If there is no failure here I'm happy because if logic follows it's done everything within reason that I asked it to do. I don't ask it to be all things to all people all the time. If there were failures here I would be pissed off. Likewise if I had seen many friends have bad experiences I would naturally be hesitant to accept the Mark III and the risk it could represent. None of that is the case in my personal experience though so what's wrong with that ? That does not make me an expert it makes me a user reporting no problems. That also does not mean my camera would be perfect for everyone or anyone else out there but it does mean that for me, it works. End of story.
I think we've all read countless opinions on both sides of the story since the camera came out. Can we put the knives away and accept both sides ? Perhaps once everyone has found a camera that pleases them personally we can all go out and take some pictures with them, whatever body each persons preference may be instead of getting in one more pissing match that winds up offending every side for nothing more than misunderstood semantics resulting in a failure to communicate. I miss the old FM Forums when discussions had real substance and inspiration.
So, have fun guys comparing black with white and sippin haterade ;-) I don't think I should waste any more of my life on this thread when I could be enjoying photography and improving my skills instead.
Happy shooting to you all whatever your tool of choice might be.
dcains wrote:
And another one bites the dust and gets the red [x]. Thanks, Fred, Guardian, or whoever.
what does the red X mean does that mean he is banned?
chesapeake wrote:
Masaya Maeda, Director and Chief Executive of Cannon Immging, made the following reply to a question diected to himby DPReview. Some professional users have expressed concern about the fact that the 5D Mark II offers the same resolution and a more modern processor than the EOS-1Ds Mark III, making the 1Ds Mark III seem a little dated. What are your thoughts on the relative positioning of the two products?
"That's a very good question. The 5D Mark II we're positioning as the very highest product in our high-end enthusiast range. The EOS 1Ds Mark III, by comparison, offers robust durability and long shutter life as the most important features for use in harsh studio conditions, we believe. However when it comes to image quality itself; because of the constant digital technology developments in this industry, it's always the latest camera that is best. So things like ISO expansion range and dynamic range are in a sense better in the 5D Mark II."
Perhaps the new Series I bodies are not too far off ...Show more →
Did he just say "Harsh Studio Environments"? LMAO. I would think that would be quite the opposite. As a 5D and MKIII owner (among other bodies, and a 5DMkII on order), I still have to laugh when one uses the "shutter life" argument for a higherend camera body. Come on! A new shutter costs about $250 or so... The difference in price would buy you a number of shutter repairs....
Masahara: well said. Personally I think that those of us successfully using the Mark III tend to get a bit tired of being labeled "fanboy" whenever someone decides once again to proclaim that the Mark III is an utter failure and waste of money. They insist on generalizing those of us who are happy with the camera as well as generalize the performance of the camera itself.
It WAS an incredible PR failure for Canon no doubt but for many of us the Mark III itself does what it is supposed to do. It seems like it's always okay to bitch and whine about the camera not working but anytime someone dares say anything positive those same whiners dump all over those individuals.
Regardless, it does seem that lately certain individuals within these forums are here simply to amuse themselves in what must be very boring lives. My MK III works. Great performance, great files, awesome camera. Period. No need to defend Canon nor my choice to use it. 'Nuff said. And for the record, I've read just about every report ever published on the Mark III. It's previous problems and failures are well documented. What I shoot and the conditions under which I shoot them are the EXACT same conditions that others have reported issues so I DO think that I am more than qualified to speak to the Mark III's performance.
LCollector wrote:
Gary. was the mkIII meant for these type of photos ? Except for the clouds..nothing is moving in that picture.....but overall, good pp, nice job with the contrast adjustment, n levels tweak. am sur, your dusty 20D can do the same job.
People forget the 1D Mk III is also a good all around camera. It takes these types of photos just as well as any other types. When I start pushing it though it is much much better than my 20D.
Yes I agree. Succsesful MkIII owners should not be ridiculed or lampooned for their succsess. To me these kind of users are not the problem on this forum though.
The problem is generated by those who routinely accuse owners of problematic MkIII's of not being able to use a camera/read a manual/take a picture. This group constantly refuses to acknowledge that some (experienced) owners still have difficulties with their MkIII. I would even go as far as to say that it is a form of insecurity, they are just looking for an excuse or opportunity to put someone down.
Steve Ickes wrote:
Masahara: well said. Personally I think that those of us successfully using the Mark III tend to get a bit tired of being labeled "fanboy" whenever someone decides once again to proclaim that the Mark III is an utter failure and waste of money. They insist on generalizing those of us who are happy with the camera as well as generalize the performance of the camera itself.
It WAS an incredible PR failure for Canon no doubt but for many of us the Mark III itself does what it is supposed to do. It seems like it's always okay to bitch and whine about the camera not working but anytime someone dares say anything positive those same whiners dump all over those individuals.
Regardless, it does seem that lately certain individuals within these forums are here simply to amuse themselves in what must be very boring lives. My MK III works. Great performance, great files, awesome camera. Period. No need to defend Canon nor my choice to use it. 'Nuff said. And for the record, I've read just about every report ever published on the Mark III. It's previous problems and failures are well documented. What I shoot and the conditions under which I shoot them are the EXACT same conditions that others have reported issues so I DO think that I am more than qualified to speak to the Mark III's performance....Show more →
I think the interesting question is where are Canon going to go with the 1D series. Will they continue with a 1.3 crop, which makes a proper wideangle harder to obtain but still rules out EF-S lenses. It's becoming a real hybrid with all the other offerings either being FF or 1.6 crop and therefore EF-S capable.
Particularly the people that don't even shoot with them. Hey, I want my camera to perform with the best of them too for that kind of money so I too am quick to examine it closer. Sometimes when my head has been filled with the ideas on this forum I feel doubt ambling it's way into the back of my mind when faced with so much hate people have come to harbor for the Mark III's past. Then I find myself looking at the images this camera has made and all the things I admired it for before the honeymoon wore off and my faith is restored quickly because I realize I do not share in the horror stories and I move on with my life. I'm really sorry if me being actually happy with *my* Mark III right now is unacceptable to some people. I can't vouch for anyone else's experience.
