cyclejoc wrote:
I think it's all about coming up with something that sells.
Jonathan
Nooo.... you're telling me a business is interested in coming up with a product that people will actually buy? Get outta here. HELLO Of course this is what people want. That's why you can no longer pre-order it at Amazon, B&H, Adorama, or any other large online retailer. They're all taken. Because this is what people want.
M Vers wrote:
It's actually not that bad of a concept and atm its implementation is rather crude,
The sarcasm is fine I guess...My only problem with the long awaited 5D II is the focus system being the same, rather crappy one as the 5D...It's the reason I sold mine and bought a 1ds Mark II...But with that being said Canon is positively brilliant in this strategy as much as I don't like it...They protect the one series and keep us waiting for the next releases of the 5D or a whole new camera..
I tried like everyone else to guess what the 5D Mark II's specs would be and never foresaw this configuration...Hate it but have to respect it...
What am I gonna do? Go to Nikon and a 12 mg camera..
At least Canon answered pretty hard against Nikon and we all know that the next versions will have better focus systems while Nikon will increase their megapixels, etc.
Marcus Watts wrote:
I was not convinced about video but i am now wondering if professionals will find it of value for blogging and therefore as a marketing tool.
That's certainly my plan. I had been toying with the idea of renting and learning to use a video camera just for marketing--but with the 5D2, I wouldn't have to. I plan to take video testimonials of clients for my website. Videos of sessions and testimonials taken immediately after sessions would actually give me something to blog.
This just proves the point that you don't need 45 or 51-point AF with 15 cross-type sensors! This guy is a consummate pro - probably better than any one of us here - and he ordered 4 or 5 copies of the 5D Mk II. What does that tell you? That he is an idiot?
Okay, I will assume that your comment was made tongue-in-cheek.
dcmiller wrote:
He may have a Pulitzer, but he doesn't seem to be aware that the camera only has NINE focus points. How can he possibly use a camera with nine focus points? And the CF door doesn't have the best kind of gasket. How could the man win a Pulitzer with such a lack of knowledge?
bobbytan wrote:
This just proves the point that you don't need 45 or 51-point AF with 15 cross-type sensors! This guy is a consummate pro - probably better than any one of us here - and he ordered 4 or 5 copies of the 5D Mk II. What does that tell you? That he is an idiot?
I wouldn't want to call the man an idiot... Especially not since he seems to be heavily sponsored by Canon
I don't think anyone is saying or suggesting great pictures cannot be taken with the old 5D focus system...I've taken much better pics with it that my 1ds mark II...but the camera had nothing to do with it..
But I would have had a higher % of winners with a better focus system..
All this complaining aside, it really makes very little difference. Of course 9 points is enought to take amazing images. The 5D was/is magical in it's quality..
I can't wait to get my 5D II, take great pics and then start complaining again..
Daan B wrote:
I wouldn't want to call the man an idiot... Especially not since he seems to be heavily sponsored by Canon
What does that mean? As far as I know, both Canon and Nikon do not give free equipment to anyone. The guy may be biased towards Canon, but he would still have to pay for his camera gear. He's putting his money where his mouth is.
And we all know and accept that fact. Canon is not going to make 1 camera that is everything to everybody. Need something better? Wait for the iteration of the 1D/1Ds bodies.
controlit wrote:
But I would have had a higher % of winners with a better focus system..
bobbytan wrote:
What does that mean? As far as I know, both Canon and Nikon do not give free equipment to anyone. The guy may be biased towards Canon, but he would still have to pay for his camera gear. He's putting his money where his mouth is.
I think it's beyond silly as well.
BTW, does the video have sound too? Even if it does, it cant possibly be good enough even for a quickie 'vacation video' with a tiny microphone ....
I’m willing to spend whatever time it takes to edit HD videos and spend whatever it costs to store them.
Viewing crisp, clear photos of my children eating while they were babies has always been enjoyable, but watching fuzzy, grainy videos of them banging the spoons on the table, making funny sounds and gestures, laughing, crying, being naughty has had an even greater emotional impact to my family. Photos make us smile; videos make us laugh – both are priceless.
My consumer HD camcorder with silent everything - lens, AF and IS can meet my needs 90% of the time, but it cannot deliver ultra wide angle, shallow DOF, or low-noise IQ under extreme low-light condition. This is when dSLR with HD can come in handy.
Those who use 5D for video will quickly realize how much noise photo interchangeable lenses make and will want silent AV lenses with build-in zoom motor. Who knows, maybe this is camera manufacturers’ new plan to get people to upgrade to the even more expensive AV interchangeable lenses. Once you’re hooked on HD videos, there’s no escape!
Thank you Canon for putting Full HD video in dSLR! I want one!
I'm excited by the fact that what this camera essentially offers is the same creative flexibility as a 35mm movie camera with thousands of dollars worth of lenses.
Consider the creative advantages of a FF dSLR over a P&S camera and you get some idea of the advantages of shooting video with this camera over a handycam. Selective focus, movements (tilt/shift), UWA, super-tele, 1:1 macro, etc. etc. A handycam just can't do it and, until now, you'd need to spend tens of thousands of dollars for the ability to be this creative with video.
Now, it comes free with the best value FF dSLR available.
I figure if I'm going to get a new camera I might as well get the latest technology plus I would like to try full frame.
I hear ya - me too. But there will always be the latest technology right around the corner, almost guaranteed to come out right after we buy whatever model.
I passed on the 40D - I'll wait to see the reviews on the 50 and 5DII to see what, if anything, I'll replace my 30D with. Good luck with your decision.
Actually, this is one of the 5D II features that excites me. I haven't touched a camcorder since I picked up still camera. How many photographers you have seen that carry both? It would be kind of odd, at least to me. But I often feel it would be nice if I could grab something on video too for kids and family stuff, like on vacation. I don't need hours of video capability, often a couple of minutes clips would be great. So this is perfect thing that I could use for picture as well as HD video.
Another use for having the in-camera video option, is for tutorials.
Granted, most who use the 5DMII will be advanced photogs. But, for creating basic tutorials for beginning photogs (like if you are an instructor of a photography class teaching students), you could create tutorial videos with narration that instruct photography basics such as composition, lighting, etc.
netminder0 wrote:
Another use for having the in-camera video option, is for tutorials.
Granted, most who use the 5DMII will be advanced photogs. But, for creating basic tutorials for beginning photogs (like if you are an instructor of a photography class teaching students), you could create tutorial videos with narration that instruct photography basics such as composition, lighting, etc.
Not to mention lens test videos that show how DOF and background blur changes as aperture, focal length, subject distance, etc. are changed on the fly.
The bokeh analysis freaks (like me) will have a lot of fun with this feature
Of course this is what people want. That's why you can no longer pre-order it at Amazon, B&H, Adorama, or any other large online retailer. They're all taken. Because this is what people want.
