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p.230 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


apdieb wrote:
Any settings you make are for the still images that you may happen to shoot while in video mode. No settings (Aperture, Shutter or ISO) are manually controllable for video.


Unless you use a manual aperture lens... which to me means that the whole no aperture control during video isn't really that big a deal.. just stick on a bargain manual lens and play with the aperture to your hearts content mid shoot of course, it would have been nice if canon lets us do that with their lenses, but oh well.



Dec 09, 2008 at 02:13 AM
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p.230 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Video in DSLR's is just first generation. Give it some time.

It's also possible that a future firmware upgrade will allow more functionality.



Dec 09, 2008 at 02:31 AM
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p.230 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Mel Gross wrote:
Video in DSLR's is just first generation. Give it some time.
It's also possible that a future firmware upgrade will allow more functionality.


I think there is no reason for optimism when talking about firmware upgrade. I don't think Canon has a proud history of adding functionality via new firmware.



Dec 09, 2008 at 02:54 AM
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p.230 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Nowhere Man wrote:
personally i'd like to see a hack for the 5D Mark II that bumps up the max sync to 250 and increases the frame rate.

this guy wants to see some other hacks and started a fund.
http://canonhack.com/?p=6




I started this site and I hope no one minds me finding here trough google analytics.

I'm not sure how I can prove to you the money will go the right way, but it will!
If you feel it's to uncertain don't donate but rather pledge money in the comments.

As to payment. Well the person can't sell the firmware... but he can give it out and we can award him with a prize for being an excellent programmer :-)



Dec 09, 2008 at 03:21 AM
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p.230 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Well, I'm returning my 5DII kit. I've got a hot pixel clump at all ISOs and all exposure times. Even at ISO 100 and 1/80 second, it's there, clearly visible in JPEGs. (ACR maps them out automagically.)
My 14 day return period ends next Wednesday and my brick and mortar dealer is trying to get me a replacement. If no replacement can be had by next Wednesday, I'll return the camera for a refund. I might wait a bit before buying in again to see how everything shakes out with black dots and red splotches.



Dec 09, 2008 at 07:16 AM
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p.230 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


As to payment. Well the person can't sell the firmware... but he can give it out and we can award him with a prize for being an excellent programmer :-)

Unless he totally writes his own code and doesn't use the Canon code as a base, it's a copyright violation even if he gives it away.



Dec 09, 2008 at 07:51 AM
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p.230 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


bobsofpa wrote:
The Canon 500mm f4 focuses well in good light with a Canon 1.4X TC and a Tamron 1.4X TC giving the equivalent of a 2X TC on both at 30D and 5D. In bad light you have a hard time getting focus lock.

How's the image quality? It seems to me only marginal with the Tamron alone, however, I am now tempted to try stacking the Tamron and Canon converters. I've stacked the two Canon converters and got really good moon and Jupiter pics at 1400mm and manual focus, so maybe the Canon/Tamron combo is worth a shot.



Dec 09, 2008 at 08:18 AM
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p.230 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


"I think there is no reason for optimism when talking about firmware upgrade. I don't think Canon has a proud history of adding functionality via new firmware. "

i'd agree with this. unfortunately.



Dec 09, 2008 at 09:51 AM
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The only thing I want is working auto-iso functionality!!! I shoot live gigs a lot and would like to set 1/180s and my aperture and have the camera control the ISO for me... but nope, ISO 400 max in manual mode sorry mate. Surely this isn't rocket science?


Dec 09, 2008 at 09:58 AM
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thrice wrote:
The only thing I want is working auto-iso functionality!!! I shoot live gigs a lot and would like to set 1/180s and my aperture and have the camera control the ISO for me... but nope, ISO 400 max in manual mode sorry mate. Surely this isn't rocket science?


Agreed. Auto-ISO is of very limited use. Set in Av mode, it was giving me shutter speeds of 1/40 second or so at about 24mm, which would be fine, but I was shooting at a fast moving kids birthday party and needed at least 1/200 to be realistic. The fact that it only automatically goes up to ISO 3200 is also limiting.

The inability to set a minimum shutter speed or maximum ISO really cripples auto ISO and makes the whole thing really questionable for anyone but landscape photographers - who of course have all the time in the world to set their ISO properly and are probably using a 'pod anyway.



Dec 09, 2008 at 10:32 AM
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p.230 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


You may want to try this solution to a similar symptom described over on DPR.

Link

CMOS wrote:
Well, I'm returning my 5DII kit. I've got a hot pixel clump at all ISOs and all exposure times. Even at ISO 100 and 1/80 second, it's there, clearly visible in JPEGs. (ACR maps them out automagically.)
My 14 day return period ends next Wednesday and my brick and mortar dealer is trying to get me a replacement. If no replacement can be had by next Wednesday, I'll return the camera for a refund. I might wait a bit before buying in again to see how everything shakes out with black dots and red splotches.




Dec 09, 2008 at 11:49 AM
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p.230 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Thanks much for that link. I'll try it and report back.

Harvey Moore wrote:
You may want to try this solution to a similar symptom described over on DPR.

Link





Dec 09, 2008 at 12:06 PM
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abam wrote:
"I think there is no reason for optimism when talking about firmware upgrade. I don't think Canon has a proud history of adding functionality via new firmware. "

i'd agree with this. unfortunately.


I can't figure out why anyone thinks they should, especially after a model has been superseded by a new one. Maintenance, yes. But if it continues to do what it did when first purchased, the manufacturer has met his obligation.



Dec 09, 2008 at 12:28 PM
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RDKirk wrote:
I can't figure out why anyone thinks they should, especially after a model has been superseded by a new one. Maintenance, yes. But if it continues to do what it did when first purchased, the manufacturer has met his obligation.

I'll give you a reason: it's called good will. I know Japanese companies are famous for their contempt of final consumers, but even so, there are very real benefits to earning good will. Making a customer feel like he made the right decision in selecting your BRAND, is a big thing. Canon seems to go out of their way to make its past customers feel like chumps! For sure, if I didn't have nearly $10,000 in Canon-specific lenses and other gear, I'd consider jumping ship in a minute.

Even little things that have already been worked out for a later version. For example, the 40D and later, uses a single file folder on the CF card for all the pictures recorded, unlike earlier versions which incremented the folder name every 100 pics. This is a small thing but would be a really handy improvement to my 20D which I still use daily.

Of course, there is also negative goodwill, such as earned so proudly by Adobe with its failure to update ACR for new cameras after its new PS versions are released. Good grief, man. They had to reverse engineer the RAW format anyway. So why not earn some positive goodwill with your customers?



Dec 09, 2008 at 12:57 PM
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p.230 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Canon provides excellent professional support and doesn't make you feel like a chump. The items that you have mentioned would not fall into the professional category.

burychka wrote:
I'll give you a reason: it's called good will. I know Japanese companies are famous for their contempt of final consumers, but even so, there are very real benefits to earning good will. Making a customer feel like he made the right decision in selecting your BRAND, is a big thing. Canon seems to go out of their way to make its past customers feel like chumps! For sure, if I didn't have nearly $10,000 in Canon-specific lenses and other gear, I'd consider jumping ship in a minute.

Even little things that have already been worked out for a later version.
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Dec 09, 2008 at 01:01 PM
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p.230 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


citro wrote:
I think there is no reason for optimism when talking about firmware upgrade. I don't think Canon has a proud history of adding functionality via new firmware.


Sure it has. It depends on what can be done. This is a totally new thing for these cameras. There's a learning curve involved.

Theres also the limits as to what can be added by firmware updates.

You can be sure that in these competitive times, anything a company can do to gain more advantage, it will try to do.

According to Thom, Nikon will likely upgrade the D90's video capabilities in 2009. If Canon can offset some of that with a firmware update, they will. It's also possible that they can't.



Dec 09, 2008 at 01:14 PM
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p.230 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


RDKirk wrote:
Unless he totally writes his own code and doesn't use the Canon code as a base, it's a copyright violation even if he gives it away.


There are ways of doing this that doesn't involve changing anything in the camera itself.

But I surely wouldn't pay someone to do it.

There is the FREE project that has been going on for Canon compact cameras for some time now.

http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK



Dec 09, 2008 at 01:53 PM
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burychka wrote:
I'll give you a reason: it's called good will. I know Japanese companies are famous for their contempt of final consumers, but even so, there are very real benefits to earning good will. Making a customer feel like he made the right decision in selecting your BRAND, is a big thing. Canon seems to go out of their way to make its past customers feel like chumps! For sure, if I didn't have nearly $10,000 in Canon-specific lenses and other gear, I'd consider jumping ship in a minute.

Even little things that have already been worked out for a later version.
...Show more

Canon has added features to its cameras through firmware updates in the past, so to say they don't is untrue.

To expect them to do more than correct bugs for discontinued models is asking too much however.





Dec 09, 2008 at 01:57 PM
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p.230 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


Mel Gross wrote:
Canon has added features to its cameras through firmware updates in the past, so to say they don't is untrue.
To expect them to do more than correct bugs for discontinued models is asking too much however.


I was not referring to discontinued models or some other unreasonable wishes.
I checked some of Nikon firmware updates on top models and I found not only bugfixes, but also new features or improvements on existing features.

link 1
link 2
link 3

That is nice.

I think burychka said it best: it is about goodwill.



Dec 09, 2008 at 03:04 PM
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p.230 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread


RDKirk wrote:
Unless he totally writes his own code and doesn't use the Canon code as a base, it's a copyright violation even if he gives it away.


what if he gives a patch to let people apply themselves to their own firmware?



Dec 09, 2008 at 03:24 PM
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