bobbytan wrote:
Check out these action shots from the 5D, from a DPR poster. I think they are pretty good and I am optimistic that the 5D II's AF system and ability to handle fast-moving subjects will be even better than the 5D.
Of course the 5D2 will be improved. Anyone who knows technology would understand that and only someone desperate to have a cry would doubt it.
I also find it interesting all the talk about about wether the lenses are up to the task. Given that there have been no complaints in the last year from the 1Ds 3 i don't see why. Let's also remember that 21 megapixels is not even double the resolution of 6 megapixels.
skibum5 wrote:
first sometimes they too want a smaller body, but moreso what about when not shooting the game? not everyone has $8000 to get a game body and a walk-about body unless you want to pay each of us $4000 yourself....
Maybe that's so.
But you know how life works. You don't always get what you want, as the Rolling Stones said.
Etadam wrote:
Actually before the 5D2 announcement, I always thought video and photo are two different things that won't mix.
However there is something that [most of]all camcorders don't have at a reasonable price: a 24x36 sensor device (with interchangeable lenses) providing a unique and amazing image quality, that opens new horizons.
12 mn straight is not a problem, however locking the exposure and controlling the AF are important points that are still to be clarified.
My thoughts about this are that it's the first generation. If it proves popular, and users want more versatility in later generations, they will likely provide it.
Right now, while both the quality, and ability of the video mode are much better than the cheaper D90, they have a long way to go before they are a challenge to video cameras.
This seems to be more of a photojournalistic bonus than anything else, though some will always find more creative uses for it.
bobbytan wrote:
Check out these action shots from the 5D, from a DPR poster. I think they are pretty good and I am optimistic that the 5D II's AF system and ability to handle fast-moving subjects will be even better than the 5D.
bobbytan wrote:
For me it's the grid screen, as that works like a leveler. Real easy to change with the supplied tweezer.
I'm not entirely happy with any of them. it's too bad they can't have a split image rangefinder screen as on the old units for when you want to manual focus, such as with the Zeiss lenses.
Mel Gross wrote:
My thoughts about this are that it's the first generation. If it proves popular, and users want more versatility in later generations, they will likely provide it.
Right now, while both the quality, and ability of the video mode are much better than the cheaper D90, they have a long way to go before they are a challenge to video cameras.
This seems to be more of a photojournalistic bonus than anything else, though some will always find more creative uses for it.
depends how carefully you shoot. i mean the low light performance blows away video cams and the DOF control blows any reasonably priced one (apparently they have some DOF adapter thingies but who knows how much they cost or if they are as flexible).
You can definitely do some things that would be tough outside of crazy priced film/video equipment, although of course there will be some things trickier about using the 5d mkii and some things worse.
Mel Gross wrote:
I'm not entirely happy with any of them. it's too bad they can't have a split image rangefinder screen as on the old units for when you want to manual focus, such as with the Zeiss lenses.
use liveview 10x zoom and focus even better than you could with a split image rangefinder
skibum5 wrote:
depends how carefully you shoot. i mean the low light performance blows away video cams and the DOF control blows any reasonably priced one (apparently they have some DOF adapter thingies but who knows how much they cost or if they are as flexible).
You can definitely do some things that would be tough outside of crazy priced film/video equipment, although of course there will be some things trickier about using the 5d mkii and some things worse.
It's the mechanics of it that's wanting right now. This is a new technology. I wouldn't expect it to come out fully formed.
Wide spread focus points are not possible in the current design because of the size of the mirror box which is limited because of the distance of the focal plane to the lens.
This limits the space that the submirror (located below the main mirror) can occupy.
Just take a look into the camera and make a drawing of the box, the mirror and the submirror.
Nice point for all you Canon/Nikon debaters, they both utilize the same design so I don't think Canon or Nikon can come up with wide spread AF points.
Thank you all for your input. I don't know when the optional screens will become available here but I'll look into the grid one when it is.
Maybe someone can come up with some way of overcoming the physical limitations on the coverage of the AF sensor chip. Maybe literally some sort of out of the box thinking
They are not a field replacable option, I have en Ee-s screen fitted to my 5D and it's a scary thing to replace. It needs time, care and patience. I'll be getting one for my 5DII but it'll stay in once fitted.
Not exactly about the 5D performance itself, but do you think that a 4GB RAM with intel core duo processor will do a good job of fast-processing PS editing with it, or worth it to wait for 6 or 8 RAM generation of comps.
In short: Is 4 GB RAM (or 3 even?) plenty already for a 21 MB image?
I am currently operating from an HP laptop bought in 2005, 1 GB RAM if I recall, and little to complain with speed editing 40D full sizes images. But too bulky for travel at 17 inches,
herve wrote:
Not exactly about the 5D performance itself, but do you think that a 4GB RAM with intel core duo processor will do a good job of fast-processing PS editing with it, or worth it to wait for 6 or 8 RAM generation of comps.
In short: Is 4 GB RAM (or 3 even?) plenty already for a 21 MB image?
I am currently operating from an HP laptop bought in 2005, 1 GB RAM if I recall, and little to complain with speed editing 40D full sizes images. But too bulky for travel at 17 inches,
Make sure you have 2GB. Yes, you can theoretically edit 21MP images with 1GB, heck even 512MB, but slowness will ensue. Just use 2GB+ and you'll be dandy.
The grid screen is nothing more than just that - it's not meant to assist you in manual focussing. I've used Brightscreen's ground glass screen before and they are horribly expensive and didn't help much either. I sold all my old Zeiss lenses because of that .... but I am really excited about the new ZE offering from Zeiss. As I understand it, there is audio and visual confirmation when you hit the focus zone - and that is all that I need. Critical focussing can be achieved in live view mode.
Mel Gross wrote:
I'm not entirely happy with any of them. it's too bad they can't have a split image rangefinder screen as on the old units for when you want to manual focus, such as with the Zeiss lenses.