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p.35 #1 · "Admirable" blur samples


Love the drama and the bokeh/compression of the first shot, cm81


Jan 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM
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p.35 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples


200/1.8 is one lens i'd like to try before I die...


Jan 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
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p.35 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples


Great shots cm81! Especially the first one.

1ds + zuiko 100mm f2.0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3332/3218622872_f04d11409a_o.jpg



Jan 28, 2009 at 01:55 PM
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p.35 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples


Lotusm50 wrote:
Look at how much more out of focus the center dryer is. That is some obvious curvature of field.


It has nothing to do with curvature of field. The sharper corners are due to mechanical vignetting. The iris of the aperture isn't circular when looking through it from the corners of the sensor/film plane, and thus its size is also smaller. This makes the DOF larger in the corners, and it is very common with fast lenses. The reason is simply that the front lens element isn't large enough to achieve a round aperture for light hitting the corners of the sensor. Of course, this gives quite alot of vignetting too.

Edit: With wide angle lenses, you can see a similar effect due to the "cosine^4 rule". At large angles of view, the aperture is non circular when seen from the corners of the sensor. If you cut a circular hole in a piece of paper, you will understand why when you view the hole from a large angle. This also gives larger DOF in the corners and natural vignetting (no matter how large the front element is), but not as bad as seen above.



Jan 28, 2009 at 02:32 PM
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p.35 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples


Makten wrote:
It has nothing to do with curvature of field. The sharper corners are due to mechanical vignetting. The iris of the aperture isn't circular when looking through it from the corners of the sensor/film plane, and thus its size is also smaller. This makes the DOF larger in the corners, and it is very common with fast lenses. The reason is simply that the front lens element isn't large enough to achieve a round aperture for light hitting the corners of the sensor. Of course, this gives quite alot of vignetting too.


The proper term would be optical or artificial vignetting (in the terminology used by Sid Ray). Theoretically, optical vignetting increases corner DOF, but since this type of vignetting only occurs at large apertures its DOF effect is opposed by oblique lens aberrations which lower the corner DOF relative to the center DOF. The aberrations normally win. Fortunately DOF plays no role in the evaluation of a generously blurred background, and you are perfectly right that optical vignetting results in a reduced corner blur. However, we cannot exclude an additional contribution of field curvature to Lotus' observation, although aberrations are ill defined for out-of-focus parts of the image.

Apart from possible curvature of field, there also seems to be curvature of the dryers themselves. Is the 50/1.0L saddled with such conspicuous barrel distortion?





Jan 28, 2009 at 05:03 PM
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p.35 #6 · "Admirable" blur samples


Contax 85/1.4 on 5D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3366/3232080252_ff264610b0_o.jpg

Rokkor 58/1.2

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/3232078922_7445e98da7_o.jpg




Jan 29, 2009 at 08:11 PM
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p.35 #7 · "Admirable" blur samples


Index:

The Index is updated and moved, see the first post of the thread.

Cheers,

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Jonas

Edited on Feb 12, 2009 at 09:27 PM · View previous versions



Jan 29, 2009 at 08:45 PM
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p.35 #8 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jonas B wrote:
Some images are not showing any more. If you want to post something but don't have a long term host PM me and I can host it for you, unless the image is very very ugly of course...

Cheers,

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Jonas


lol

Thanks for all your work on this Jonas! Truly generous and gracious of you.

I can offer hosting as well (an account on my site is all you need). Simply post your own thread or create "communal" threads in either of the galleries and attach your shot(s), then hot-link to them. On my site, they'll appear like http://forum.cogitech.ca/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29 and you can use just the standard img tags to hot-link them here.



Jan 29, 2009 at 09:22 PM
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p.35 #9 · "Admirable" blur samples


robsteve wrote:

A few from the Leica 35-70mm f2.8.

http://forum.getdpi.com/gallery/files/2/2/l1070620.jpg


Rob, you just HAVE to explain how you did this shot!



Jan 29, 2009 at 09:49 PM
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p.35 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples


Tripod, slow shutter, zoom during exposure.

Try it. It is fun. Short-lived fun, but fun.



Jan 29, 2009 at 11:41 PM
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p.35 #11 · "Admirable" blur samples


cogitech wrote:
Thanks for all your work on this Jonas! Truly generous and gracious of you.

I can offer hosting as well (an account on my site is all you need). Simply post your own thread or create "communal" threads in either of the galleries and attach your shot(s), then hot-link to them. On my site, they'll appear like http://forum.cogitech.ca/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29 and you can use just the standard img tags to hot-link them here.


Thank you for commenting on my hard work (at slow times at work only... but anyway).
I had a look at your forum and the feature you implemented for submitting images. How nice it works!

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/4sculptures1.jpg

Canon 450D, Sigma 50/1.4 EX



Jan 30, 2009 at 12:13 AM
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p.35 #12 · "Admirable" blur samples


Canon EF50-200L Macro setting

http://www.robert-chisholm.com/fred_miranda/blur/50_200_grass.jpg


http://www.robert-chisholm.com/fred_miranda/blur/50_200_twig.jpg

Edited on Apr 26, 2010 at 09:54 PM · View previous versions



Jan 30, 2009 at 12:40 AM
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p.35 #13 · "Admirable" blur samples


Cableaddict wrote:
Rob, you just HAVE to explain how you did this shot!


I moved the zoom ring quickly during a slow (1/6 sec) exposure. The secret is to move the zoom ring smoothly, so you get an even blur. I was on a tripod too.

Robert



Jan 30, 2009 at 08:03 AM
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p.35 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples


I absolutely love this image, but I have said so before. The best crash zoom shot I have ever seen.


Jan 30, 2009 at 08:07 AM
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p.35 #15 · "Admirable" blur samples


Nikon DC135 on Canon 5D MKII F2.0

http://www.robert-chisholm.com/fred_miranda/blur/dc135.jpg

Edited on Apr 26, 2010 at 11:38 PM · View previous versions



Jan 30, 2009 at 09:39 PM
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p.35 #16 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jonas B wrote:



Thank you for commenting on my hard work (at slow times at work only... but anyway).
I had a look at your forum and the feature you implemented for submitting images. How nice it works!

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/admirableblur/4sculptures1.jpg

Canon 450D, Sigma 50/1.4 EX


That Sigma really is very, very nice, IMO.



Jan 30, 2009 at 09:45 PM
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p.35 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples


I like the bokeh of my newly purchased Zuiko f/2 100mm very much.
It beats even my Canon f/1.8 85mm

http://i.pbase.com/o6/44/535144/1/108505208.S47hsUe0.IMG_7780_pp.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/o6/44/535144/1/108505209.oDM4nzc0.IMG_7796_pp.jpg




Jan 30, 2009 at 10:07 PM
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p.35 #18 · "Admirable" blur samples


FD 85/1.2 SSC Asph. on 5D:

http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/8512/shots/img_2360.jpg



Jan 30, 2009 at 10:41 PM
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p.35 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples


EF400 5.6L on 5D

http://www.robert-chisholm.com/fred_miranda/blur/400blur_2.jpg

http://www.robert-chisholm.com/fred_miranda/blur/400blur_3.jpg

Edited on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:16 PM · View previous versions



Jan 30, 2009 at 11:45 PM
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p.35 #20 · "Admirable" blur samples


cogitech wrote:
FD 85/1.2 SSC Asph. on 5D:

http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/8512/shots/img_2360.jpg


Very nice Paul!



Jan 31, 2009 at 12:00 AM
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