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Jonas B
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · "Admirable" blur samples


This is a try to collect opinions on bokeh of all sorts (and also a try to save the Sigma 50 -thread from getting carried away). When I say bokeh of all sorts I mean it, the ugly as well as the beautiful. Noone knows how somebody else sees it.

"oh come on. This has to be simply the most subjective and pretentious thread i've seen in years."
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Edited on Apr 30, 2010 at 07:41 PM · View previous versions



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:03 AM
Jonas B
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples


For Braniac; some Leica samples that may be edgy enough?

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/fmforums2008/584_Cron90_flowers_f2.jpg

and

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/fmforums2008/585_Cron90_flowers_f2.8.jpg

and

http://photos.imageevent.com/jonas_b/fmforumsmonthly/fmforums2008/586_Cron90_flowers_f4.jpg

The 90Cron ASPH isn't optimized for close-ups but works reasonably well. These samples are shot raw and then developed using ACR with curves set to linear and everything else to zero or default. Resized and Smart Sharpen (100, 0.3).

Edited by Jonas B on Jul 06, 2008 at 11:25 AM GMT

Edited on Jul 06, 2008 at 05:25 AM



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:06 AM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples


I don't know about "admirable", but I took this today with Rokkor 58/1.2 on 5D in a bookstore, @ f2.0

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q69/Blknoel/_MG_6834.jpg

Edited on Jul 02, 2008 at 06:19 AM



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:19 AM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples


See Leon, it is "better" at f2. No?


Jul 02, 2008 at 06:30 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples


http://obj.fotosidan.se/obj/photo/d1/d195682acc2b561d322826b991ee793e.jpg

Linhof Selected Voigtländer APO Lanthar 105/4,5 for 6*9 on a Minolta Auto Bellows III on 40D. Wide open.




Jul 02, 2008 at 06:32 AM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · "Admirable" blur samples


5D+OM55mm @f1.2

http://Spyro-P.smugmug.com/photos/324079578_fDwvf-L.jpg



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:43 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · "Admirable" blur samples


http://obj.fotosidan.se/obj/photo/51/51f1375d67581dcfaeaa59e3c8327d36.jpg

Vivitar Series 1 90 2.5 macro at 2.5 on 40D

http://obj.fotosidan.se/obj/photo/51/51f1375d67581dcfaeaa59e3c8327d36.jpg



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:46 AM
Jonas B
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · "Admirable" blur samples


Anden wrote:
Vivitar Series 1 90 2.5 macro at 2.5 on 40D


Very dreamy Anden!



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:53 AM
Jonas B
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · "Admirable" blur samples


Anden wrote:
Linhof Selected Voigtländer APO Lanthar 105/4,5 for 6*9 on a Minolta Auto Bellows III on 40D. Wide open.


That's a cool setup. Everything goes...
I'm not sure I like the edgy effect around the top flowers/petals/whatever. Aren't they a little distracting compared to smooth creamy Siggy blur?



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:59 AM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples


See Leon, it is "better" at f2. No?
it is true for focusing to close objects - say 2-3 meters and background consist of relatively small objects, but after that distance f1.2 is fine
http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/4/W0002112/000211139/000021113899_%23_3_%23_dim.ka.jpg


http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/4/W0002112/000211139/000021113898_%23_3_%23_dim.ka.jpg


http://photos.fotki.lv/photos/4/W0002129/000212813/000021281281_%23_3_%23_dim.ka.jpg



Here is the case where i would choose f2



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:18 AM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · "Admirable" blur samples


Only alternatives? I'll stretch the definition and include some from my Sigma 150 as well.

Not super creamy, but there's something about the rendering of the bokeh from my Zeiss 85mm that I love

85mm f/2.8 Sonnar, f/2.8:
http://www.jordansteele.com/images/recent/red_tulip.jpg

85mm f/2.8 Sonnar @ f/2.8:
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/daniel.jpg

Super-Takumar 50mm f/1.4 @ f/1.4:
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/yellowflowers1.jpg

Sigma 150mm f/2.8 Macro:
http://www.jordansteele.com/images/recent/hoverfly2.jpg

@ f/2.8
http://www.jordansteele.com/forumlinks/dad_sigma150.jpg


Edited on Jul 02, 2008 at 07:24 AM



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:22 AM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · "Admirable" blur samples


Jman13 wrote:
Only alternatives? I'll stretch the definition and include some from my Sigma 150 as well.


No, not alternatives only. But Sigma is not a stretch at all. And I like the blur in the portrait shots.



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:27 AM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · "Admirable" blur samples


good bokeh (135L at f3.2, sorry, not alternative, but one of the best lenses for bokeh):


http://www.bildar.de/FilesEx/135L.JPG



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:30 AM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples


and a bokeh I don't like sometimes: Olympus 50 1.2 wide open, only bokeh, with distracting double lines...

http://www.bildar.de/FilesEx/bokeh_bad.JPG



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:31 AM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · "Admirable" blur samples


i like the 430. liked it liked it liked it!


Jul 02, 2008 at 07:36 AM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · "Admirable" blur samples


Yeah, the 135L is hard to beat, but I find the bokeh from my Sigma 150 to be as good.

Here's one from when I owned the 135L:
http://www.jordansteele.com/images/recent/pink_flower.jpg



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:53 AM
Jonas B
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples


Ulff wrote:
and a bokeh I don't like sometimes: Olympus 50 1.2 wide open, only bokeh, with distracting double lines...


The EF135/2 is one of the best for anything, isn't it?

I agree about the OM 50/1.2. I have owned it and it had to go (together with the OM55/1.2 and Minolta 58/1.2 and Summilux 50/1.4 and a couple of other 50mm lenses).



Jul 02, 2008 at 07:54 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · "Admirable" blur samples


cogitech wrote:
See Leon, it is "better" at f2. No?


Something Rokkor users have been aware all along Paul, f2.0 and f2.8 produce very creamy bokeh. But there's some pride in being able to do so at wide open, which could get very tricky sometimes.

I'm kinda glad the new Sigma 50mm seems to have soft bokeh wide open, so we all don't need to buy Leica Nocti for that. But then again, some will still say it's not an f1.0 lens.

Many sweet shots in this thread.

Edited on Jul 02, 2008 at 10:37 AM



Jul 02, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples


Edit: so the next person doesnt throw a fit .. i deleted the photos



Edited by teh_rebel on Jul 03, 2008 at 10:52 AM GMT

Edited on Jul 03, 2008 at 05:52 AM



Jul 02, 2008 at 01:11 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · "Admirable" blur samples


When did the 85L and 135L become alternatives?

As nice as they are, the shots are out of place in this forum.



Jul 02, 2008 at 06:28 PM
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