Just got my 100-400L on Friday and spent the weekend getting to get a feel for it. First impressions was how much bigger and heavier it is than my next largest lens 70-200/4L. Also the push-pull zoom is taking some getting used to. For the most part, I really like this lens, the only thing I dont seems to be the focusing speed. But from what I have read, it seems to be the M.O. for this lens. I shoot with a 40D usually in AI-Focus mode, but when trying to shoot BIF's, I switch over to AI-Servo. It seems here at times the lens really hunts, especially when a bird would fly over a light background like a cloud. Is this a limitation of the lens, or the camera body? It seems to get confused at times. Anyone have some advice on this? I was considering the EF 400/5.6 prime and this lens, and for its versatility I am glad I picked the 100-400. But after a few days of handholding this thing all day, I am SORE!!!! The end of today, I pulled out my 400D which is now my backup body, and put the 70-200/4 on it and it was like I was holding a P&S it was so light (relatively speaking) and nimble feeling.
Oh, also, I am the guy who posted about the UPS tracking listing my shippment involved in a "train derailment". The package showed up just fine, no sign of trauma on the box or contents.
Um... servo mode - uses the center spot only until it locks on and then should use all 9 sensors to track the object. Once it does that you should be good to go, but I'm not sure how you are supposed to tell it's locked on. I have had issues in the past if I get focus and then let the lens wander off the subject a bit, it'll go focus on something else. I imagine with BIF it's more challenging. The longest lens I'm using now is the 70-200 f4 and you obviously know all about that one.
Ha - UPS. I ordered some stuff from newegg last Wednesday - 3 business day select. Newegg is in LA, I'm in LA, it usually takes a day to get here. Then my package showed up in Albuquerque! It should arrive tomorrow on the modified 5 day unselect program. Ugh, UPS used to be really reliable, they're starting to flake a bit. Still probably better than FedEx for ground though.
IMO, while the 40D AF servo is OK, I have no patience to shoot smaller and/or faster flying birds with the 100-400. So what you are experiencing now is more-or-less normal for that camera-lens combination.
Again, with sufficient application/persistence anything could be made to work, and I have no doubts that people can show BIF shot keepers obtained even with the 65mm prime, however, more suitable tools such as the 400 f/5.6 make the task easier.
I was using center focus point only, and attempting to keep the bird "centered". I guess I can select all focus points and try that. I just dont like shooting that way normally
troy12n wrote:
I was using center focus point only, and attempting to keep the bird "centered". I guess I can select all focus points and try that. I just dont like shooting that way normally
I wouldn't use all focus points if you have a cluttered background because it is more likely to lock on the background.
It will works ok for a blue sky but I prefer using the center focus point only and bumping the focus to keep it locked.
here are the "best" ones I was able to get today. They were shot RAW, converted to jpeg, and cropped, no post processing other than raw conversion and jpegging...
Glad to see I'm not the only one not getting very good results with the 40D + 100-400 combo, I thought it was just me or the camera.
Wow troy they suck. That combo isn't even acquiring a semblance of focus. Mine's not that bad, just keeps focusing ahea dor behind where I want but only in AI servo, one shot is fine.
There are so many factors in play with these types of shots, its hard to track down.
1. limitations of the camera AF system
2. misalligned / malfunctioning camera AF system
3. limitations of the lens (af speed insufficient)
4. malfunctioning lens focus (front/back focusing, needs calibration)
5. user error (camera not held steady enough)
6. incorrect camera or lens settings
7.
I'd tried to do BIF with the 40D + 100-400L combo awhile back and finally gave up, unless you're shooting very large bird filling most of the frame otherwise the AF speed from this lens ain't going to cut it, the better option is either 300 F4 or 400 5.6 for BIF.
BTW, generally you should get higher keeper rate with 40D + prime than a 1D series + 100-400L for BIF.
For bigger birds the 100-400mm can hold it's own, but as others have already mentioned AF isn't it's strong point for BIF especially if they are smaller birds. I've found using AI servo and center point focus gave the best results but would sometimes use all AF points for larger birds like Herons.
Here are a few suggestions:
* use center AF point only.
* set the lens distance limiter right.
* prefocus the lens to the approximate distance of the first "contact" with the bird.
* use IS mode 1.
* maximize DoF
* shoot in Tv mode, min 1/1250 sec.
* Job No.#1 is: keep the center AF on the bird steady as if your life depends on it. As soon as you slip off, go back and refocus.
* Start shooting in single shot mode, then increase to 3 FPS.....keep a watchful eye on focus maintenance while firing....that means developing control as opposed to "spray and pray" affliction.
I love this lens, obviously hand held technique play a major role in getting decent sharpness in such low shutter speed, but then anything lower than 1/60s will result in motion blur from these small birds.
I don't know if I'd say they suck... the first one's pretty good, but you're at 1/400 and shooting at 400 mm or so. IS or no IS, that's going to result in some motion blur.
The second one,well, that's out to lunch. Who knows what the problem is there, maybe you coughed.
First point is you only just got the lens, so save yourself some angst and assume you have some learning & practice to do, not that your camera/lens is/are faulty.
Use one of the tracking AF modes, leave IS off (delays the start of AF), choose centre point & set your * button for AF. When the focus drifts off the bird, drop your thumb from the * button so the AF doesn't wander too far away. Re-engage AF when the bird is in frame & close to focus again.
I'm not saying that these are the best settings, but it might be a place to start while you practice. Birds in flight is hard, so practice is the main thing. If you have large close birds, use your 70-200.
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