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Mike Mahoney wrote:
Just attended yet another rehearsal where I was told that there will be NO photography whatsoever during the ceremony .. none with flash,. none without flash, none period. I can shoot the precessional, the register signing, and the recessional. The bride was aghast.
So I sit in the back waiting for the recessional while 250 relatives snap away and the video guy props his tripod (and himself) right in front of the front pew.
There should be some kind of public register where officiants make there views on photography known, so that people can avoid them if they want. Hopefully that may put them out of business.
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I agree 1000%. I had one like this (and no, it wasn't catholic! I have had good luck with catholic father's allowing me to photograph). He approached me right before ceremony and said no pictures... I said no pictures with flash, right, I know, I don't use flash durring the ceremony, I stand in the back of the church and put my camera on a tripod... he said "no - no pictures, no shutter clicks period". I said oh, ok... he said that's just the way they do things in that faith and continued on to explain the sanctity of the sanctuary and how photography violated that sactity... or something along those lines (this pastor was actually visiting from another church too - the church we were at wasn't even his church!). He also said he is willing to re-enact after ceremony for pictures... I talked to bride, and she wasn't thrilled but said, if that's what he said, that's what we have to go with. So there I sat at the back of the church, camera down, waiting for recessional (the only time I was allowed to take pictures). I was totally shocked when all the guests took pictures durring the entire ceremony - With FLASH! As soon as the ceremony was over I made a bee line to find him, when I did, he had already changed out of his clothes (so no re-enactment!), and I told him specifically "I just wanted to let you know that all those flashes were not me - you told me not to take pictures and I want you to know I did not - that all those flashes were from the guests". His response was, "yeah I know, usually they print it in the program that pictures are not allowed, but apparently they didn't this time". There I sat thinking - 'Yeah, like everyone reads the program, and even when they do, they don't follow the rule of no pictures'. I asked him about re-enactment - he said he didn't have time, he had to leave immediately! So client's wedding did not have any ceremony pictures at all.
I think if they are going to restrict the PAID photographer, they need to restrict the guests/videographers/others!!! It looks bad when the paid photographer doesn't get shots of the ceremony, but the guests do! I guess that's when I tried to start getting the officiators name & phone number before the wedding to call them... I have very few times gotten this info from my brides though... Usually they don't bother to give me that information, even if I specifically ask for it.
In contrast, I had a full latin mass catholic wedding, and the father was saying that he doesn't usually allow pictures. I explained to him how I shot ceremonies (i.e. no flash, camera on tripod at the back of the sanctuary), he decided to allow me to shoot... a little cautiously... but let me. I think he was happy with my attitude & actions - I asked him if I did everything OK, and he said, yes that he didn't even know I was there - I told him that's the difference of the really good pros  Hopefully... if more of us can open this back up... things might change for the better...
But I think unless we at least black list these guys ourselves with future clients, they will continue to act that way, without any recourse.
I wish some photographers would start public lists though, accessible by brides & other photographers as well... just to be prepared... or for the bride to select another officiate or make appropriate accomodations to ensure photographic coverage of the wedding ceremony.
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