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p.2 #1 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


jhom wrote:
So, is the 35L the problem or the bodies?


Yes.





Jun 17, 2008 at 09:53 PM
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p.2 #2 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


When I first received my 85mmL MkII, it was backfocusing on my then 1Ds MarkII and it was adjusted by Canon. After I sold the camera the buyer told me that the camera frontfocused. Not sure what happened back then. And it doesn't need any microfocus adjustment on both 1D MkIII and 1Ds MkIII now.


Jun 17, 2008 at 10:01 PM
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p.2 #3 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


35L front focused to a greater or lesser degree with 300D, 400D and 5D
85L front focused with 5D
80-200 spot on with 300D, 400D and 5D
several 17-40's spot on

I think with the fast primes having such a thin dof wide open its more obvious when there are focus issues.

Edited on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:27 PM



Jun 17, 2008 at 10:25 PM
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p.2 #4 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


17-40/4L - very slight forward focus
70-200/2.8L IS - slight back focus
300/2.8L - moderate forward focus

All corrected with little difficulty. I should add that IMHO, it depends of the body you are using. ON my 10D the 300/2.8 exhibited moderate forward focus yet on my mate's 1D it did not. This is not due to the 1D body being out of calibration either. I reckon the pro bodies are more accommodating of lens errors.



Jun 17, 2008 at 10:34 PM
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p.2 #5 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


18+11 = 29 w/ problems versus 41 w/o problems. I think that's a bad ratio. Canon should be ashamed, especially for the price of the L's.

But... I still don't know why I keep buying more L lenses. Hmmn.

Edited on Jun 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM



Jun 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
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p.2 #6 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


gdsf2 wrote:
Interesting finding so far: The "no problems" outweigh the "problems" by a bunch but more folks with "problems" replied in writing.

Jerry




That's the whole issue with reading these kinds of posts where people supposedly have such a terrible time with L glass.

It might seem as thought "many" L lenses have problems, but you're only reading about those who have problems (or think they do). You're not reading threads from the guys like me who've never once had an issue.



Jun 18, 2008 at 09:46 AM
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p.2 #7 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


I have had focus issues with all three of my L lenses. Do I give a toss? Not really. I regard it in the same way as a regular service issue and a somewhat minor inconvenience.

I suspect I'm on my own...



Jun 18, 2008 at 09:49 AM
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p.2 #8 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


That is my point. I especialy love the posts "I just ordered a new lens - how do I tell if it is sharp?" I don't know - how about taking some pictures! I think folks buying their first high-end lenses are being scared to death by the tone of some of these posts.

Problems do happen - but don't go looking for them. Use and enjoy your new lens. If the results look bad (under normal situations) then test the lens out.

Jerry



Jun 18, 2008 at 01:23 PM
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p.2 #9 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


Ok..., my turn.

Out of the 7 L's ...

My 300/2.8 and 35/1.4 weren't good.

Xicotencatl



Jun 18, 2008 at 01:34 PM
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p.2 #10 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


Let's see if we can get a sample of 200 readers.



Jun 18, 2008 at 10:30 PM
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p.2 #11 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


Probably over thirty L lenses I have bought new and 4-5 pre-owned, all for my own use and not for speculation.
Out of those, if I remember correctly, the following ones have had a focus calibration error: 35L, 28-80L, 200 f/1.8, 50 f/1.2.....four lenses in total, which is not bad as a percentage of the total.



Jun 18, 2008 at 10:50 PM
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p.2 #12 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


DavidP wrote:
If you haven't had any with problems, you're either blind, don't know how to test, or just haven't tried enough of them yet.


sad but true



Jun 19, 2008 at 12:06 AM
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p.2 #13 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


In about twenty lenses I've yet to have any problems (real world, or brick wall). And I am (part-time) professional, so it's not like the results aren't hugely significant.

Most of my lenses are bought used - so I'd expect more issues, but not so far at least....



Jun 19, 2008 at 02:57 AM
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p.2 #14 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


Used might have helped you, the lenses wouldn't have been kept as duds.


Jun 19, 2008 at 04:02 AM
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p.2 #15 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


No problems at all with any lenses so far.........




...my first 40D was crap though.



Jun 19, 2008 at 05:21 AM
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p.2 #16 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


How to do some propper testing ?


Jun 19, 2008 at 05:49 AM
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p.2 #17 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


Oh no - let's not turn this into a "how do I test thread." Anything but that. There are a gazillion such threads already. Do a search and see what I mean.

Jerry



Jun 19, 2008 at 06:57 AM
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p.2 #18 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


DavidP wrote:
If you haven't had any with problems, you're either blind, don't know how to test, or just haven't tried enough of them yet.


I'm not blind and I know how to test. I guess I just haven't tried enough of them yet. For what it's worth, here are those I own now, owned in the past, or have tried in the past:

85L (Mk 1)
135L
17-40L (2 copies)
70-200/2.8L
70-200/2.8L IS
70-200/4L
300/4L

I have tried a few other L models, such as the 70-200/4L IS and the 300/4L IS, but not for a long enough time to determine conclusively whether they were front- or back-focusing. I will say that the images I made with them all looked in focus.

I'm a bit confused as to why the OP would only want to know about L lenses, though. Because I've had a boatload of non-L lenses, and only one of them suffered from focus issues. I won't bother listing them here, as there are lots of them and I'm likely to forget one or more.

I don't doubt there are particular lenses, bodies, or combos in the world that have front- and back-focusing issues. The reports here from photographers I trust to know how to conduct such tests are evidence enough. But the internet amplification effect is definitely to blame for the general 'feeling' one gets that the problem is rampant and widespread. If it were as prevalent as one is led to believe by the reports here, neither my experience nor the results of this poll would be what they are.



Jun 19, 2008 at 07:29 AM
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p.2 #19 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


None of my seven L series lenses had any front or back focussing issues, but my EOS 5D did, and so I got it calibrated. Now, everythings OK.


Jun 19, 2008 at 07:53 AM
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p.2 #20 · L Lens Back/Front Focusing - MAAN


I thought I was having back focus issues with my lens, enough that I them in for calibration. Each time upon return, it was the same as before. I figured that maybe my 5D body was the problem. Lucky for me, I read somewhere that custom function 17 (expanded AF points) can sometimes cause misfocus for non-moving subjects. I checked and sure enough, when I bought the camera I set that function thinking the expanded AF points would improve things. Maybe its just me, maybe my 5D really has issues, but after changing back to the default setting... I am in focus heaven.

Ben



Jun 19, 2008 at 09:38 AM
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