well this was a favor to a friend and the first time i shot as the "pro" shooter. it's a whole lot different than shooting concerts. i had a lot of fun and think that i did ok.......and am ready for my next one this weekend.
i would love some c&c on these. and would also like to hear what you do in cases where the b or g doesn't seem happy about the wedding.?.
thank you very much for your feedback marcel vanEerd. i'm not sure if you are just trying to be a smart ass or you just don't know what you are talking about, but 95% of these photos have flash. i completely agree that i need to learn how to use it better. i am a well published concert photographer, but this is a whole new ball game. flash is not allowed and not wanted at a concert. i did struggle with FC. my pp for this type of photography needs some work as well. but i do appreciate your taking the time to look and respond.
I think you did a great job for your first main wedding photographer gig. The bride seems uncomfortable in front of the camera... but sometimes there's only so much you can do. The ones where she's smiling are really good. Aside from getting a better handle on the flash (it's can be difficult!!), the colors are nice and eye popping. I think you should be proud. There have been MUCH worse posted on here... and I wouldn't put there near them.
John Power wrote:
Uh, did the bride ever act (or at least look) like she was happy to get married? If so, could we see a few of those?
not really. that's why i was wondering how you might handle that situation. when you hear them tell each other to f*** off, you know it's going to be a difficult task. anyway, here is one where she is smiling
unblinkable wrote:
I think you did a great job for your first main wedding photographer gig. The bride seems uncomfortable in front of the camera... but sometimes there's only so much you can do. The ones where she's smiling are really good. Aside from getting a better handle on the flash (it's can be difficult!!), the colors are nice and eye popping. I think you should be proud. There have been MUCH worse posted on here... and I wouldn't put there near them.
Extreme close ups of the bride are very popular today. We all do them. I think we should be careful to retouch blemishes; I think of how I would feel having a super sharp lens taking extreme close ups of my face so that you can see every pore--like the surface of the moon; most brides won't mind a bit of flattery as long as it is not overdone
When shooting outdoors on a sunny day and you are shooting in the shade, color balance can be a nightmare; the top of the dress may be warm while the bottom of the dress will be sky blue, like in #9; the only way I have found to handle this is a touch of fill flash to whiten the dress; of course, I hate to use fill flash
These are really good for a first effort. I hope my first wedding shots turn out at least this good. The thing I noted about your images though is that the post processing seems a bit all over the place, particularly in terms of WB adjuments. Take a look at shots #9 and #10 for example...both have shade with spots of sunlight punching through (a difficult scenario of course), but #10 has wonderful warm tones that I think look great, but #9 has very cool tones that don't really do much for me. Then #11 goes back to the very cool tones that were in #9. You've got to watch that whites are not cast as blues due to the wrong WB setting. Hope that helps a bit.
thanks. you are correct in that i should have done some skin touch up. that is another area i need some work in. also, i was trying to use fill flash throughout. funny you mention #9, because my card filled up on my 5d right as she started walking down the isle so i had to switch to my 20d with no flash on it.
thank you for taking the time to comment.
Vance Zachary wrote:
You did very well, I think, all considered!
Extreme close ups of the bride are very popular today. We all do them. I think we should be careful to retouch blemishes; I think of how I would feel having a super sharp lens taking extreme close ups of my face so that you can see every pore--like the surface of the moon; most brides won't mind a bit of flattery as long as it is not overdone
When shooting outdoors on a sunny day and you are shooting in the shade, color balance can be a nightmare; the top of the dress may be warm while the bottom of the dress will be sky blue, like in #9; the only way I have found to handle this is a touch of fill flash to whiten the dress; of course, I hate to use fill flash
p150 wrote:
Not bad for a first-timer. It seems Father Dwayne has taught you well.
WOW! you do not know how much of a smile this put on my face! first of all the nod to my dad was very nice, but then when i checked to see how you knew, it was just as nice. when i tell my wife about the glory days of loud n proud i always wonder what you are up to these days. and then there you are. i hope that you are doing well and will have to check out your and your wife's work.
Inga wrote:
These are really good for a first effort. I hope my first wedding shots turn out at least this good. The thing I noted about your images though is that the post processing seems a bit all over the place, particularly in terms of WB adjuments. Take a look at shots #9 and #10 for example...both have shade with spots of sunlight punching through (a difficult scenario of course), but #10 has wonderful warm tones that I think look great, but #9 has very cool tones that don't really do much for me. Then #11 goes back to the very cool tones that were in #9. You've got to watch that whites are not cast as blues due to the wrong WB setting. Hope that helps a bit....Show more →
thank you inga for you input. i realized i was getting a little carried away while doing the post on these. the warmer tones seem to be a lot more popular.
James_R wrote:
I agree with Inga about the post processing.
I think you should use 11 and 14 as templates, and work from there.
I really like the those, and that seems to be a popular style for wedding photography.
Michael Saba wrote:
thank you very much for your feedback marcel vanEerd. i'm not sure if you are just trying to be a smart ass or you just don't know what you are talking about, but 95% of these photos have flash. i completely agree that i need to learn how to use it better. i am a well published concert photographer, but this is a whole new ball game. flash is not allowed and not wanted at a concert. i did struggle with FC. my pp for this type of photography needs some work as well. but i do appreciate your taking the time to look and respond. ...Show more →
Not trying to be a smart ass at all, and I'm sorry if it came across that way. I took the time to look at your postings and gave feedback, just like you asked. I did see some catchlights here and there, and some pics were obviously flashed, so my remark should have been more precise: "I would suggest studying pics 4,5,9,11,12,13,15,16 to see where your use of flash could be improved upon."
Michael Saba wrote:
WOW! you do not know how much of a smile this put on my face! first of all the nod to my dad was very nice, but then when i checked to see how you knew, it was just as nice. when i tell my wife about the glory days of loud n proud i always wonder what you are up to these days. and then there you are. i hope that you are doing well and will have to check out your and your wife's work.
When I first saw your post I though "Really, how many Michael Sabas can there be?"
PM me if you want to catch each other up on what's been going on for the last... uh... 20 years.
Michael Saba wrote:
WOW! you do not know how much of a smile this put on my face! first of all the nod to my dad was very nice, but then when i checked to see how you knew, it was just as nice. when i tell my wife about the glory days of loud n proud i always wonder what you are up to these days. and then there you are. i hope that you are doing well and will have to check out your and your wife's work.
Just so you know, I'd heard your name enough to stop and wonder if you were the same one that lived on St. Regis (right). But unlike Jeff, I decided the odds were VERY against it. I'm glad he took the time to look you up!
I took the time to look at your postings and gave feedback, just like you asked. I did see some catchlights here and there, and some pics were obviously flashed, so my remark should have been more precise: "I would suggest studying pics 4,5,9,11,12,13,15,16 to see where your use of flash could be improved upon."