JohnJ80 wrote:
Oh come on. It's called maximizing sales and it is about trying to get a complex product to market with all that has to happen to make that go successfully.
What do you want them to do, publish their whole product roadmap on the internet with product introduction dates, feature sets, projected prices etc...? That would be pure lunacy from a business perspective.
j.
You think he was being serious? Seriously.
May 25, 2008 at 10:06 AM
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It seems to me that this book release date suggests that the 5D MKII will be released at Photokina, which has seemed like the most likely scenario for some time.
That book seems really weird to me. It's meant to be a field guide but has 300 photos, the camera must have been in a close to release status for a while for her to have achieved that many quality photos and for her book to be a reflection of what the final image quality/feature set will be but it won't even be announced till photokina and won't hit stores till September.
Does anyone else smell a engineered Canon leak similar to the spanish pdf about the original 5D?
Beni wrote:
That book seems really weird to me. It's meant to be a field guide but has 300 photos, the camera must have been in a close to release status for a while for her to have achieved that many quality photos and for her book to be a reflection of what the final image quality/feature set will be but it won't even be announced till photokina and won't hit stores till September.
Does anyone else smell a engineered Canon leak similar to the spanish pdf about the original 5D?
"The Amazon.com listing is an error that I hope will be corrected very soon.
I'll believe it when I see it in the local photo shop. Until then, its not here, theres no point in saying that its coming. It just gets people up in a lather. It will be november until the book is ready, so I would say if there is a 5D Mark whatever coming its still 6 months away.
How can somebody write a book about a camera which is not even there yet? If this is true, this would mean that Canon offered a few beta test models to a rare number of people in secret. This also would mean that the official release date is delayed a lot if the camera already exists. Indirectly this points to my earlier statements that Canon wants to make more profit with the sales of the 40D and the old 5D first before damaging their own profit margins with the release of a 5D MkII.
Oh, one more thing to add... By the time the book (again, if this is a field guide for the 5D) is published in November 2008, the camera, I mean the 5D and not the 5D MarkII, is obsolete .
AGeoJO wrote:
Oh, one more thing to add... By the time the book (again, if this is a field guide for the 5D) is published in November 2008, the camera, I mean the 5D and not the 5D MarkII, is obsolete .
You tell me! Is there a replacement model after that ? Not that it won't work/drive but if there is a replacement model, meaning not being the current model, it is obsolete. At least that's my understanding of obsolete: again, not being the current model. That's all.
retrofocus wrote:
How can somebody write a book about a camera which is not even there yet? If this is true, this would mean that Canon offered a few beta test models to a rare number of people in secret. This also would mean that the official release date is delayed a lot if the camera already exists. Indirectly this points to my earlier statements that Canon wants to make more profit with the sales of the 40D and the old 5D first before damaging their own profit margins with the release of a 5D MkII.
So what's your point? Someone has been commissioned to write a book and they hold off release to make maximum profit is no surprise. In fact it's smart business.
not in the current lineup? Perhans, but not obsolete.
ob·so·lete /ˌɒbsəˈlit, ˈɒbsəˌlit/ adjective
1. no longer in general use; fallen into disuse: an obsolete expression.
2. of a discarded or outmoded type; out of date: an obsolete battleship.
AGeoJO wrote:
You tell me! Is there a replacement model after that ? Not that it won't work/drive but if there is a replacement model, meaning not being the current model, it is obsolete. At least that's my understanding of obsolete: again, not being the current model. That's all.
With the rebates it's no wonder the 5DII has been under wraps.
And please, that's not a mis-listing. Charlotte is now trying to cover herself. It has a publication date and two standard ISBNs.
Canon is not releasing any details about the 5DII because it'll likely be priced at about $2500 for body. I say that because it will likely be considerably better than the current 5D for quite the bargain, similar to Nikon's D300. Canon has to create a D300 killer at a good price as well. They can't release a 5DII below current rebates on the 5D, but keeping the details completely secret until after the 5D rebates are over is very telling that the 5DII is going to be extremely competitive with the 5D for a price/features analysis.
All of the people that bought the current 5D on rebate are going to be pissed come the launch of the 5DII. But they'll all justify their purchases somehow, claiming the 5DII doesn't "pop," or there's some "magic" to the current 5D that the 5DII lacks.
I really think this 5d vs. 5dmk2 real funny...your image quality would be the same with both even if the latter has the digic3 geared for high ISOs in real world I dont think you could tell the diff on a 8x10 one shot at 12.8mp and the latter shot at 15.3 or 16.7mp
RobertLynn wrote:
If she's writing the book, that means she has her mitts, or will have her mitts on the 5D2 sooner than the public...probably had to sign non-disclosure agreements and such, but would be interesting to know what is planned for this camera, so all of the speculation can rest.
No, it doesn't mean that at all.
It means she has been reading the speculation just like the rest of us and has put down a marker with amazon.com. She may well get an advance copy, but if she has signed any non-disclosure agreements then she has just violated them.
"I think that everyone can assume that Canon will--eventually--introduce one or more new cameras. The truth is that I don’t know what the camera (or cameras) will be.
To respond to a few of the comments in this discussion, I can tell you that: (1) I have no inside information; (2) I’m not under NDA; (3) I do not have a pre-release camera of any flavor, and (4) there is no “leak.”
The listing on Amazon.com is simply an error--no subplot, no leaks, and no secrets being kept. Like you, I wait anxiously to see what Canon will announce next.
Also in regard to the Amazon.com listing, I can tell you that I do not know how the error was made, and that I had nothing to do with it. In fact, I didn’t know about the listing until late last night when photographers began e-mailing me.
I sincerely wish the error hadn’t been made, and I can’t speculate on how it happened. I’ve alerted the people I know about the listing errors, and they are working to correct them. I hope that the listing errors are removed real soon now; but given the U.S. holiday weekend, it may be later rather than sooner.
Kind regards,
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