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gfiksel wrote:
Hogwash.

From http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/Canon%20EOS%20Lens%20Tests/188-canon-ef-24-105mm-f4-usm-l-is-lab-test-report--review?start=1:

On APS-C DSLRs vignetting is very well controlled with the lens. Wide-open vignetting does not exceed ~0.5EV which is usually not much of an issue in real life situations. One stop down the problem is absolutely negligible.


He was actually referencing using it on a full frame 5D though, which if it vignettes on APS-C, its gonna be worse on a full frame.



May 01, 2008 at 11:23 PM
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p.2 #2 · 16-85mm VR real world samples




He was actually referencing using it on a full frame 5D though, which if it vignettes on APS-C, its gonna be worse on a full frame.


1. The post is about a D300 which is not a FF.
2. The 16-85 is a DX lens, not gonna work on FF without .. cough ... falloff .. cough


Edited on May 01, 2008 at 11:35 PM



May 01, 2008 at 11:27 PM
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1. The post is about a D300 which is not a FF.
2. The 16-85 is a DX lens, not gonna work on FF without .. cough ... falloff .. cough



Could have fooled me. Seems like the conversation was about the 24-105mm, hence your reference to the Photozone review in your link.

Edited on May 02, 2008 at 12:13 AM



May 02, 2008 at 12:04 AM
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p.2 #4 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Are these shots taken of a personal collection of planes? These shots are amazing captures of amazing pieces of machinery, thanks for sharing Magic...


May 02, 2008 at 12:37 AM
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p.2 #5 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


NikonAndy wrote:
Are these shots taken of a personal collection of planes? These shots are amazing captures of amazing pieces of machinery, thanks for sharing Magic...



It is one of my favorite places to shoot. It's the Carolinas Aviation Museum in Charlotte NC. Its not very big, but it's a cool place nonetheless.



May 02, 2008 at 12:45 AM
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p.2 #6 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Great photo's! Great sharpness, but do I have to buy this lens? Is it better then the 18-70?

Thanks for sharing your experiance.

Cheers



May 02, 2008 at 01:12 AM
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p.2 #7 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Very cool

NikonAndy wrote:
Are these shots taken of a personal collection of planes? These shots are amazing captures of amazing pieces of machinery, thanks for sharing Magic...

It is one of my favorite places to shoot. It's the Carolinas Aviation Museum in Charlotte NC. Its not very big, but it's a cool place nonetheless. "




Edited on May 02, 2008 at 01:34 AM



May 02, 2008 at 01:32 AM
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I'm wondering if what we're really viewing is the skill of the OP in post-processing, rather than the capabilities of the 16-85 lens itself. Perhaps the OP can show the unprocessed file of a couple of these images so we can compare?

I sort of scratch my head at those times when a poster claims how good a particular lens is, and then proceeds to show images taken with the lens but highly processed.

That being said, the OP's final images are terrific!





May 02, 2008 at 02:03 AM
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p.2 #9 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


MannyS wrote:
I'm wondering if what we're really viewing is the skill of the OP in post-processing, rather than the capabilities of the 16-85 lens itself. Perhaps the OP can show the unprocessed file of a couple of these images so we can compare?

I sort of scratch my head at those times when a poster claims how good a particular lens is, and then proceeds to show images taken with the lens but highly processed.

That being said, the OP's final images are terrific!



Thank you Manny. Keep in mind that these are "real world samples", and are representative of how I would use the lens to produce a finished product.

I'm a firm believer that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and if the lens didn't deliver the goods, I wouldn't be able to coax any better quality from it (I'm not that good to begin with).

I do hope that Nikon makes a 24-105mm F/4 similar to Canon's offering, as I am really not that happy with the 5.6 of the long end of the this lens. That being said, it may be a about $150 overpriced, but so far, the lens has impressed me with it's color rendition, contrast and sharpness.



May 02, 2008 at 09:47 AM
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p.2 #10 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


I have this lens, and its married now to my D2X. 95% as sharp as my 24-70mm lens. Just an under appreciated jewel.


Apr 25, 2009 at 03:32 PM
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gfiksel wrote:
1. The post is about a D300 which is not a FF.
2. The 16-85 is a DX lens, not gonna work on FF without .. cough ... falloff .. cough


Um, he was talking about moving from a D300 (with an 18-200) to a 5D with the 24-105L.

It was suggested that the 16-85 might be a good substitute for the 24-105 focal length without moving brands.

Therefore, he was comparing a D300 + 16-85, to a 5D + 24-105L. Hence the problem with the 24-105L's light falloff on a full frame camera is entirely relevant.


Back to the OP, I really want the 16-85. I so wish Nikon had chosen to keep it the f/3.5-4.5 of the 18-70, both because I would have liked the most of a stop gain on the long end, and because I have a hard time justifying the cost increase from my existing 18-70 when I'm losing that light in the process. So many lenses, so little money. When I see excellent, sharp, detailed work like this, though, it gets me browsing B&H though

Thanks for sharing them.



Apr 25, 2009 at 03:42 PM
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p.2 #12 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Its sharper than my 18-70mm. Yes you lose a stop, but the lens is actually sharper and more contrasty.

binary visions wrote:
Back to the OP, I really want the 16-85. I so wish Nikon had chosen to keep it the f/3.5-4.5 of the 18-70, both because I would have liked the most of a stop gain on the long end, and because I have a hard time justifying the cost increase from my existing 18-70 when I'm losing that light in the process. So many lenses, so little money. When I see excellent, sharp, detailed work like this, though, it gets me browsing B&H though

Thanks for sharing them.




Apr 25, 2009 at 04:09 PM
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p.2 #13 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Those are fine images and a good testimony to the capabilities of the new lens.
I remember those Jeeps from my childhood. I paused to look at them and beautiful memories came to my mind.
What a great opportunity of using the lens in such an interesting location.
Thank you for sharing.
William Rodriguez
Miami, Florida.



Apr 25, 2009 at 05:45 PM
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p.2 #14 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Very nice images. Thanks for sharing.

The 16-85mm AF-S VR really shines on the D300 - in fact it has been on my D300 99% of the time since I bought the combo.
Amazing, compact, sharp, wonderful color, etc..etc... a very nice lens indeed.



Apr 25, 2009 at 10:43 PM
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p.2 #15 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


Taken yesterday with the D300/16-85VR combo.


http://www.pbase.com/vciinc/image/111995059.jpg



May 01, 2009 at 02:16 PM
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p.2 #16 · 16-85mm VR real world samples


molson wrote:
I'm not Joe, but I recently switched from the Canon 5D and 24-105L combination, and the Nikon D300 with the 16-85 VR is a nice step up in image quality.


+1. I switched from a Canon 1D Mark II and 24-105/4L and find the D300 w/ the 16-85 to be much better in every way. I thought I was going to miss the 24-105 but given how nice the 16-85 is, I don't miss it a bit.



May 01, 2009 at 02:45 PM
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