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p.1 #1 · Cyan cast


I need help. I have a blue cast that comes uip when I print from Photoshop CS.
I basically edited the photos from Tiff and saved them as 8 bit jpegs.
I tried color balance, but the photos still come up with the bluish cast.
Any sugestions, comments or ideas PLEASE.
I can print fine from other programs, just not photoshop cs.
Thanks,
Bernard



Apr 09, 2008 at 09:19 PM
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p.1 #2 · Cyan cast


Is your monitor calibrated and profiled?

Do you use a profile for the printer and paper you're using and allow PS to manage the color or do you let the printer manage the color?

What color space are you saving your image with prior to sending to print?




Apr 09, 2008 at 10:15 PM
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p.1 #3 · Cyan cast


i think thr printer manages thr color. i've printed from ps before w/put any problems. i dont know what color space is but, i saved it as rgb.
Monitor never calibrated, but never had these issues before.
I can print pics from adobe album wout the color cast problem.
I turned down the cyan color all the way down on thne printer and it still comes out w/ the cyan cast



Apr 10, 2008 at 06:55 AM
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p.1 #4 · Cyan cast


i've also reduced the cyan usingcolorbalance and I still get the cyan cast on the prints.


Apr 10, 2008 at 06:57 AM
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p.1 #5 · Cyan cast


Just a suggestion. Whenever you are seeing a color cast on your prints, and you're unsure whether it's the monitor or the printer, try the following:

1) Open an image in Photoshop that has a good range of tonal values.
2) Using Image/Mode, convert the image from RGB Color to Grayscale.
3) Using Image/Mode, convert the image from Grayscale back to RGB Color.
4) The image is now in RGB Color mode, but a monochrome image (equal code values for all pixels). Print the image and see if the print has a color cast. If it does, it's a problem with the printer or printer profile. If the print is neutral, then the printer/profile are good and the monitor calibration is suspect.



Apr 10, 2008 at 08:06 AM
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p.1 #6 · Cyan cast


BobCollette wrote:
Just a suggestion. Whenever you are seeing a color cast on your prints, and you're unsure whether it's the monitor or the printer, try the following:



Wow, Bob,

Great tuturial. I have had a red tint to my prints with my Pixma 9000. No one, including a Canon rep, has been able to help me. I will try this.

Thanks!

Ron



Apr 10, 2008 at 08:45 AM
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Ron,

You're welcome. This procedure won't solve the tint problem, but it will hopefully point you in the right direction as to where the problem lay: monitor or printer calibration.

Bob



Apr 10, 2008 at 09:50 AM
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p.1 #8 · Cyan cast


Get a copy of the PDI test target (free from many sources), try printing that from the file no editing, do Bob's conversion on the same image (keep the original it is a great test target).
Do a head check on your printer, how is the yellow, the magenta?
What profile are you printing with, what paper?
A place to start.

Tom



Apr 10, 2008 at 01:43 PM
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Breal wrote:
I need help. I have a blue cast that comes uip when I print from Photoshop CS.
I basically edited the photos from Tiff and saved them as 8 bit jpegs.
I tried color balance, but the photos still come up with the bluish cast.
Any sugestions, comments or ideas PLEASE.
I can print fine from other programs, just not photoshop cs.
Thanks,
Bernard



Hello Bernard,

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger with the cyan cast. I get the same thing with my Epson 2200 printer.

I have done the monitor calibration, printer calibration and also downloaded the paper profiles from epson. No double profiles. Still the cyan cast.

I have let Photoshop manage the color printing and I have let the printer do the color managing, but no help.

I have just about given up. Frustrating as all hell, not to memtion the wasted ink, paper and time. There has got to be a better way.

Good luck,

Gerald



Apr 10, 2008 at 05:15 PM
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p.1 #10 · Cyan cast


There is no doubt that the monitor has to be calibrated, but i now that it's not that far off. Like I said, The colors come out OK when I print from another program. There is something within CS that is causing the proble. I never had this problem before. I just haven't printed anything in a while. The nozzle check came out alright. I cleaned the heads a about 3 times now. I;ve printedon Kodak glossy paper, on Canon Matt and Canon Pro Photo. All CYANISH IF I PRINT FROM PS CS.
It's not the paper, the printer or the monitor



Apr 10, 2008 at 05:42 PM
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I should alsomention that I printed a photo that was converted to B&W and I still get the color cast. But when I print the B&W pic from adobe albumit prints in B&W



Apr 10, 2008 at 05:48 PM
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I missed the fact that other programs print without the cyan cast. Have you tried turning off color management in Photoshop? If you're not sure how to do it, you can refer to a paper that I had written while at Kodak. It refers to the Kodak 1400 dyesub printer, but the procedure for turning off color management (described near the bottom of page 4). You'll find the document at: http://download.kodak.com/professional/manuals/adobeManuals/Printing_Images_From_Adobe_Photoshop_7_and_CS.pdf

Alternatively, if you print a grayscale image (grayscale mode), color management is disabled, since there is no color information to manage. If the resulting print has no cyan cast, then it points to a color management issue (not all applications apply color management).



Apr 10, 2008 at 06:17 PM
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p.1 #13 · Cyan cast


Not to hijack this thread, but this may be very helpful to Bernard.

I solved my cyan cast by doing what Bob suggested.

I downloaded the Print Target and converted it as to Bob's instructions. When I printed it I had a cyan cast to the grayscale image.

I let Photoshop do the color management and turned off color management in the printer.

I re-profiled my printer paper with the MonacoEZcolor. And put the new profile in as my printer profile. I printed the grayscale image again and I'll be dammed, it is grayscale without the cyan cast.

I printed a photo and it came out just fine.

Bob, you are the man! Thanks for getting this to work for me. I hope it works for you too Bernard.

Gerald

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By the way, when I printed to my HP 475 Photo Printer when I was having the cyan cast problem, the photos came out just fine on the little printer. The problem was with the Epson 2200 printing.



Edited on Apr 10, 2008 at 06:36 PM



Apr 10, 2008 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #14 · Cyan cast


I finally had a chance to play with these settings and vuala, he cyan cast is not gone. The bad news is that I don't really understand how it happened, but I'm sure it will in due time. Thanks a lot Bob. I really appreciate it.


Apr 13, 2008 at 02:56 PM
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p.1 #15 · Cyan cast


BobCollette wrote:
Just a suggestion. Whenever you are seeing a color cast on your prints, and you're unsure whether it's the monitor or the printer, try the following:

1) Open an image in Photoshop that has a good range of tonal values.
2) Using Image/Mode, convert the image from RGB Color to Grayscale.
3) Using Image/Mode, convert the image from Grayscale back to RGB Color.
4) The image is now in RGB Color mode, but a monochrome image (equal code values for all pixels). Print the image and see if the print has a color cast. If it does, it's a problem with the printer or
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O.K. I am getting so #$%^& frustrated. I took Bob's advise and did exactly as above. The printout is not perfectly neutral. I thought that it was but I had my wife look at it objectively. I didn't tell her what I thought and she called it a sepia cast to it.

Color handling is set to "Photoshop Manages Color". ( I am using ProPhoto RGB color space). Printer (Canon Pixma Pro 9000) is set to not manage color.

When I print the test image I had the Printer Profile set to "Canon Pro9000 PR1". When I printed my image that I had the cast to it I had the printer profile set to "IGC etc." the profile that I downloaded from Iford for the Gallerie Classic Pearl Paper".

Any settings that I am missing or any further ideas as to what I am missing that is probably obvious?

Please help. I am going to have a gallery showing this week-end. The color cast is not gossly off but I want them perfect.

Thanks to those of you that have responded already.


Ron


Edited on May 19, 2008 at 08:30 AM



May 19, 2008 at 05:51 AM





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