The only killer argument is what are you planning on buying after purchasing this body? How many lenses are you planning on buying with this body?
IF you're just getting the one lens that comes with the camera, then they are all good cameras with the 450D lower noise at high ISO. K10D has the better viewfinder and a killer 31/1.4 lens as your "normal" lens.
go4java wrote:
Do you have any KILLER-ARGUMENT for one or the other
1. Welcome to FM.
2. No one can have such for you as personal taste plays a vital role i.e. the killer argument for me may not be the same one for you.
3. Consider the whole system. Bodies come and go but good lenses and company behaviour last much longer.
Hi the all-in-1 lenses are going to be a compromise but the Nikon 18-200 VR is meant to be a very good lens. Canon dont yet have an equivilent
The K10 has just been replaced by the K20 but if you dont mind the older model then that seems a good price for the K10, also might want to look at the K2000 which is prety much the sam as the K10 but you could always look for the Samsung versions (GX10 & GX20) which are efectivly K10 and K20 with a different badge but cheaper.
The D80 will probably be the next to be replaced by Nikon (just had D300 & D60)
As for the canon I dont think it has shipped yet (still on pre order here) but I would also consider the 400d as you should be able to pick it quite cheap now and put the rest of the cash to the lens
Here's one. If you ALWAYS shoot in RAW, I will recommend the K10D. Excellent camera, just don't 'shoot-and-print' with this camera.
Forget Samsung (for the moment), there is NO support. They just don't have the setup or expertise... (until they buy Pentax outright). Has on-body IS so grab a Sigma 18-200, and you'll be fine.
go4java wrote:
Read many articles and reviews of all of them, but did not find a conclusion yet (for me).
Do you have any KILLER-ARGUMENT for one or the other
No, but there are a few things to consider:
What lens systems are in use by photographing friends and family? It's nice if you can borrow stuff.
Which camera has the best ergonomics for your hands? Literally get a feel for the bodies before you choose. Touch, feel, controls, menu structure, stuff like that matters.
Did you check the lens line-up for each lens system? Does it cater to your needs?
Did you check the availability (and price) of the glass, both second hand and new? Does it fit within your current budget and your future budget?
In my case, it was Canon all the way. Most glass available, lots of friends and family to borrow lenses from, best availability. See what answers you get yourself.
p.1 #10 · Nikon D80 or Pentax K10D or Canon 450D ?
If you don't plan on buying more than one lens, then why go dSLR in the first place? A high-end digicompact might suit you better, if exchanging lenses isn't going to happen.
p.1 #11 · Nikon D80 or Pentax K10D or Canon 450D ?
Pentax has the 18-250mm and Nikon has the 18-200mm, If you go with Canon you'll have to use a third party zoom as Canon doesn't make an equivalent lens.
The Pentax is the more robust body of the three and very capable, assuming you shoot RAW. The Canon is the most compact and travel friendly with the cleanest high ISO. The Nikon is sort of a blend of the two, being larger than the Canon with more dedicated controls, but lacking things like weather sealing the Pentax has.
Any would be an excellent tool. If you were serious about a one lens solution I'd go with Nikon just for the 18-200 and seriously consider a D40x instead of a D80.
