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Archive 2008 · On line photo sales - cropping question

  
 
rjk55425
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p.1 #1 · On line photo sales - cropping question


I am going to set up a site to sell pictures. Can someone provide insight on the best cropping strategy that would allow people to order prints in the most popular sizes? I assume one doesn't want to crop too tight to allow flexibility in printing sizes but is there an optimum crop size I should be using?

I am also open to recommendations on sites to use, I would like to pick one that has reasonable fixed costs, yet with great usability, features, support and of course customer friendly. No idea of volume that I would do.

Thanks, Randy



Feb 17, 2008 at 12:48 PM
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p.1 #2 · On line photo sales - cropping question


Spend a little time looking at the poplular sizes and the height-to-width ratios of those size. It is not about how tight you crop, but the ratio of the crop you make.


Feb 17, 2008 at 01:53 PM
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p.1 #3 · On line photo sales - cropping question


I show mine in the original 2x3 ratio, and just crop their order as desired.

As for host, I use Exposure Manager, and really like them. If you want more info, let me know and I'll send you a PM with more info.

John



Feb 17, 2008 at 03:18 PM
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p.1 #4 · On line photo sales - cropping question


I agree with John. When looking for a service, I needed to find one that allowed me to crop / correct photos after the customer's order, but before printing. (I do low volume of sales on a high volume of photos.)

Currently, I use Photoreflect service (18% commission on sales), though I've heard Smugmug now allows photographers to upload revised images before prints. I'm sure there are others.

Andy Rubenstein
www.PlymouthPictures.com



Feb 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM
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p.1 #5 · On line photo sales - cropping question


One option would to shoot tight and only offer 4x6, 8x12 and so on.

Problem I find with 2:3 format is that I end up shooting tight and then it gets quite hard to make 8x10 out of it.

BTW - Zenfolio has also started letting you crop/correct after the order has been placed.



Feb 19, 2008 at 10:34 AM
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p.1 #6 · On line photo sales - cropping question


Andrew R wrote:
I've heard Smugmug now allows photographers to upload revised images before prints.

They do. You set a "print delay" which allows you time to do the cropping yourself if desired. BTW, their commission is 15%.



Feb 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM
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p.1 #7 · On line photo sales - cropping question


The common print sizes vary in aspect ratio between 4x6 (1:1.5) and 8x10 (1:1.25).

One choice is to crop 5x7 (1:1.4) which is in between the two aspect ratios. However, I have found that a 1:1.35 crop, while not exactly corresponding to a print size, is closer to the center of the 1:1.5 and 1:1.25 crops. That is to say if you crop the photo to a 1:1.35 aspect ratio you will have to remove about the same amount from either the top and bottom or both sides to get to the 4x6 or 8x10 print.

Sometimes, when a shot looks perfectly framed in the original 4x6, I'll leave it uncropped and let the customer decide whether to cut off the feet for a 8x10, print a 8x12 or print an 8x10 with a white area on both sides (no crop).

I use smugmug but I hate to go back and recrop a photo.

ColoradoSprings.SmugMug.com

I used 1:1.35 for much of my last season of basketball photos and before that I used 1:1.4.

Edited on Feb 19, 2008 at 04:08 PM



Feb 19, 2008 at 04:07 PM
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p.1 #8 · On line photo sales - cropping question


Printroom also allows you to edit and re-upload the purchased photo before it is printed. Its very easy.


Feb 19, 2008 at 05:40 PM
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p.1 #9 · On line photo sales - cropping question


Tandem - Thanks for the tip. I think 1.35 is what MaxPreps also recommends.

Edited on Feb 19, 2008 at 05:46 PM



Feb 19, 2008 at 05:45 PM
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p.1 #10 · On line photo sales - cropping question


BTW - Another related question

How do you guys handle the sharpening for print orders that are handled automatically by the web site like printroom, zenfolio etc? Customer can order from 4x6 to say 16x20.




Feb 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM
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p.1 #11 · On line photo sales - cropping question


I think a good strategy would be to show in normal/captured aspect ratio, then crop to order.

I do a capture sharpen on all images when I first import them into Lightroom for editing, very very light maybe level 20 at a radius setting of about .6, detail at 0 and masking at 0, and a very light smart sharpen about 40-60% when finished editing. I do not apply any print sharpening to the images until I get a print order (on the prints I do myself.) Some of the online sites will also sharpen the images when you upload, but I leave that function off.

Edited on Feb 22, 2008 at 09:10 PM



Feb 22, 2008 at 09:08 PM





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