Galibier wrote:
"all would be forgivein if they just own up to their responsibility and assure owners that they will sove the problems."
How is Canon not owning up to their responsibility to solve the AF problem? Do you believe there is a simple fix which they are concealing or chose to ignore? Do you want a personal letter of apology and commitment from Canon?
As for Leica's prompt response to the M8's infrared issue, that fix involved the simple and readily apparent solution of placing an IR filter on each lens (a solution which, by the way, made many Leica users unhappy). I don't see how that situation is comparable to the complex AF issues affecting the Mark III....Show more →
Galibier, You are totally 100% Wrong. You need to get your facts correct before you post In fact Leica will be replacing the shutter mechanism, supply new firmware, new capture algorithms, and claims they may also entreily replace the sensor. To do all of this they state they have to nearly entirely dismantle the body and so will require all of the work to be done at the same time, beginning sometime late this summer. The Leica M8 has been my little "vest pocket" shooter so I'm delighted to have all of these things done to it. At least when Leica responds they do so in an open and complete fashion.
Red
Red makes an excellent point. If Canon had said, "hey folks, we have a problem and we are going to make it right but it may take some time to figure out," most people would have been pretty cool with it. In fact, people have been almost unbelievably forgiving up to now. However, Canon has denied the problem, duped its customers and continues to blame them for the camera's problems. Worse yet, they continued to sell a product they knew was defective.
Hrow wrote:
Red makes an excellent point. If Canon had said, "hey folks, we have a problem and we are going to make it right but it may take some time to figure out," most people would have been pretty cool with it. In fact, people have been almost unbelievably forgiving up to now. However, Canon has denied the problem, duped its customers and continues to blame them for the camera's problems. Worse yet, they continued to sell a product they knew was defective.
That's what they did with the original 1D and the banding issue. BUT, they did eventually fix it (though much faster than what's happened so far with the 1D3).
That's why I (and presumably others) were (and are) assuming that Canon will do with the 1D3.
I just returned from a shoot in Florida. Very hot and the camera definetely underperformed. I have the bulk of my business coming up soon. And now I have a camera that won't focus but about 60% of the time, that's if I'm lucky. I have one race where out of 60 shots I had about 5 usable pictures. I have just about had it. I feel like someone came into my house and robbed me of $4,500.00.
jbfaulconer wrote:
I just returned from a shoot in Florida. Very hot and the camera definetely underperformed. I have the bulk of my business coming up soon. And now I have a camera that won't focus but about 60% of the time, that's if I'm lucky. I have one race where out of 60 shots I had about 5 usable pictures. I have just about had it. I feel like someone came into my house and robbed me of $4,500.00.
May I ask if you had a 1D2 or 1D2N before and sold it to buy a 1D3 or did you just buy a 1D3?
DynoMoHum wrote:
Given that was that user's second ever post at fourms.dpreview.com... I highly suspect the guys just a nut job trying to rile people up...
I would just like to feel 100% confident in my M3 body. If I miss a shot I want it to be my fault. If I do everything right I should be rewarded with a well focused shot thats all. I don't feel comfortable shooting under f/4 and even then I get ones that are blurred sometimes and there is no explanation.
You may be looking in the wrong place for the "dot"...or for the wrong thing.
Next to the battery connector on the back of the battery compartment they have put a "dot" not much bigger than a ballpoint pen tip...it takes a bright light to find it. It looks like it was burnt into the plactic...not removable. Mine has 2. No difference from one.
Excuse the post if this appeared elsewhere in the FM thread...I just got started reading it.
If Canon keeps this up the 1DIII may be in perpetual warranty.
Hrow wrote:
If Canon had said, "hey folks, we have a problem and we are going to make it right but it may take some time to figure out," most people would have been pretty cool with it.
Didn't you receive an email from Canon stating that they had a problem with the sub-mirror and it needed to be replaced? Did you register your camera?
Curator wrote:
Didn't you receive an email from Canon stating that they had a problem with the sub-mirror and it needed to be replaced? Did you register your camera?
No, I didn't and I yes I did. Canon told me that they didn't have a problem before I bought the camera and afterwards as well. In fact, they are still telling me it is user error and that the problem is that I am using the * button. There is a limited amount of horse sh@t that would should be forced to swallow, don't you think?
Hrow wrote:
No, I didn't and I yes I did. Canon told me that they didn't have a problem before I bought the camera and afterwards as well. In fact, they are still telling me it is user error and that the problem is that I am using the * button. There is a limited amount of horse sh@t that would should be forced to swallow, don't you think?
I agree about the user error. I mean, if you never used the 1d III at all, it would work perfect. RIght?
That's the lamest excuse I've ever heard. People have been using the * to focus for years with no issues.
Why should the use of the * or AF button could cause the problem. BTW I used to use the shutter button to AF and it does not seem to have such a problem but I will check it using the AF or * button. What is the gain by using a seperate button for AF can someone tell me ?
In fact Leica will be replacing the shutter mechanism, supply new firmware, new capture algorithms, and claims they may also entreily replace the sensor. To do all of this they state they have to nearly entirely dismantle the body and so will require all of the work to be done at the same time, beginning sometime late this summer. The Leica M8 has been my little "vest pocket" shooter so I'm delighted to have all of these things done to it. At least when Leica responds they do so in an open and complete fashion.
