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p.13 #1 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII


I would not buy a 1DMIII right now... Seems wise to wait and see what Canon announces next.... and well then wait for someone like Rob Galbraith to test the new fix (assuming there is a new fix)... Too big of a mess to wade into... if you don't need to.


Feb 07, 2008 at 08:46 PM
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p.13 #2 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII


Josh Bustos wrote:
would it be safe to buy a MarkIII from B&H right now?
(my income doesn't depend on my photography)


I'd agree with DynoMoHum; no reason to rush into it unless you want to spend a fair amount of time and effort testing things to see if Canon has actually fixed it. And whatever you do, don't sell the MkIIn until you know the MkIII is working properly (although there's probably a whole lot of folks interested in taking it off your hands what with all the MkIII uncertainties! )



Edited on Feb 07, 2008 at 10:09 PM



Feb 07, 2008 at 10:08 PM
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p.13 #3 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII


Josh Bustos wrote:
would it be safe to buy a MarkIII from B&H right now?
(my income doesn't depend on my photography)


oh lord! i beg you please don't buy this camera. i wouldn't wish this ordeal on my worst enemies



Feb 07, 2008 at 10:11 PM
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p.13 #4 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII


Josh Bustos wrote:
would it be safe to buy a MarkIII from B&H right now?
(my income doesn't depend on my photography)



I wouldn't. Even if you get a perfect one you are almost assured that you will suffer from far greater depreciation than normal.



Feb 07, 2008 at 10:36 PM
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simonella_viru wrote:
oh lord! i beg you please don't buy this camera. i wouldn't wish this ordeal on my worst enemies



I would. I hate the son of a bitch.



Feb 07, 2008 at 10:42 PM
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p.13 #6 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII


I just bought a brand new one after 6-7 bad experiences, the price was too good to refuse the deal

Serial # 56xxxx, datecode UW0106, should be the latest production...

Edited on Feb 07, 2008 at 11:03 PM



Feb 07, 2008 at 11:01 PM
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p.13 #7 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII


Free?




Feb 07, 2008 at 11:03 PM
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lidesun wrote:
Not necessarily.....how about 30 % off and free shipping

After owned 7 bad copies of the Mark IIIs, all failed at oneshot mode, but i can say this one works perfect @ oneshot mode for all my lens from f/1.2-f/2.8..

The interesting part is all my lens and 1Ds Mark II and Mark II N were calibrated by Canon, and works just so great to shoot wide open, but all the lens need microadjustments with the Mark III, from -1---- -16.... quite confused.

All f/2.8 and f/2lens need very small adjustment -2--- -6, but the f/1.2 and f/1.4 lens nedd -11---- -
...Show more

Interesting.. While out shooting Basketball and Soccer tonight, I screwed around with my micro adjustments throughout the night. Going through right now to see what settings worked the best. Looking like +15 on my 70-200 is going to work.

Dang focus charts and stuff just don't do it for me.. I need to go and shoot real world, adjust and then look. Seems like it works better for me that way.

Another thing, these images look much better in DPP than Lightroom or ACR Bridge... More detail.. Odd..

I tell you this...After this shake up, I am very hesitant to use it for a paying gig..


Congrats on the deal btw.. that is great...



Feb 07, 2008 at 11:20 PM
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I can feel your pain....

apdieb,

Thanks !

When i got my first Mark III back in June last year, i suddenly don't know why i got tons of soft images, and for two events shot, i would say at least lost thousdands prints sale.

The bigest problem for me was the AF inconsistency, and the microadjustment didn't help at all, today +5 give you the best result, tomorrow will be the -10....but all these were before the SB fix came out.

But this new Mark III performs just like i expected after the microadjustments.
so i am happy with the purchase, so the good thing happends to me after the 7 bad ones

Edited on Feb 07, 2008 at 11:28 PM



Feb 07, 2008 at 11:26 PM
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I don't normally post often, but want you to know that you are not the exception if you are having post mirror fix issues. My 1DIII (516197) received the sub-mirror fix after months of abysmally inconsistent focus performance including one shot. Then I had to micro-adjust my fixed lenses 24L (+10) and 35L(+12) in order to get a sharp image... and I never could get my zooms calibrated across their full range. For example, fix 16mm and then 35mm side is off! These lenses all work fine on my 5D's.

It now also gets err99's which it did not before.

So I sent the camera back again, asked them to fix it right this time or replace the camera. It has been almost a paper weight since I bought it in June. I envy all those who say their camera is fine. Mine has not been so, and I risk my business with oof images. It has been in repair for 9 days now.

I will let you know what happens. If it comes back and I still have focus issues, I will begin to stridently ask for a replacement. $4500 is just too much to write off!

Alan
Moments Found Photography

Edited by azmerm on Feb 08, 2008 at 09:14 PM GMT

Edited on Feb 08, 2008 at 10:14 AM



Feb 07, 2008 at 11:32 PM
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lidesun wrote:
I just bought a brand new one after 6-7 bad experiences, the price was too good to refuse the deal

Serial # 56xxxx, datecode UW0106, should be the latest production...


Someone please remind me how the date code works... Mine is OV1206, #5588xx...

Thanks!

Jeff



Feb 08, 2008 at 12:16 AM
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apdieb wrote:
I've seen the same thing. I questioned it here this summer and was trounced as being daft. A couple of people took it seriously and suggested that DPP seems too be applying sharpening even if you turn it off. Might be worth posting as a separate question again now that more people have experience with the files.



Feb 08, 2008 at 12:17 AM
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Jeff wrote:
Someone please remind me how the date code works... Mine is OV1206, #5588xx...

Thanks!

Jeff


Jeff,

Mine is newer than yours

UW 0106, 2008 production...

Lide


Edited on Feb 08, 2008 at 12:20 AM



Feb 08, 2008 at 12:20 AM
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Henry,

I had a Canon rep tell us that DPP should be used on really large prints because it does indeed resolve/interpret the Canon RAW files better than most processing engines. He said you wouldn't notice much if at all on normal sized prints, but when printing extra large, he highly recommended at least using it to convert to TIFF and process in PS later.

He also said, I am a Canon rep but not preaching this for Canon's sake, DPP is free and just works better with interpretation, not necessarily anything else. Laughed.

Next to the old Raw Shooter Pro, DPP and C1 are the cleanest and most detailed processing engines that I have used. Having said that, I use Lightroom almost exclusively these days.




Feb 08, 2008 at 12:47 AM
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Hrow wrote:
Here is a thread I started a couple weeks ago regarding the same findings withh DPP.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/608919/0#5363368



Feb 08, 2008 at 01:15 AM
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p.13 #16 · New AF fix for 1D mkIII



Canon Date Codes


Because they are chronological, serial numbers usually do tell the approximate age of a Canon SLR or SLR lens, but Canon Inc. has never put out any sort of public information about serial numbers. However, the is another way to get the information about a camera body or lens. For cameras, look inside the body's film chamber for an alphanumeric code printed in black ink on the black surface of the film chamber. You may have to hold the camera under a strong light to see it. What you'll see is a date code, possibly something like "U1140F."

The first letter tells the year the camera was manufactured: in this case, 1980. It's an alphabetic code; A = 1960, B = 1961,....T = 1979, U = 1980, and so on up to Z = 1985. The next 2 numbers tell you what month the camera was made, in this example, November. (the leading zero for the month code is sometimes omitted, so an A-1 with a code of "Y362" would have been manufactured in March, 1984, for instance.) The following 2 numbers are an internal code that is irrelevant for determining age, but year and month is close enough anyway, IMO. (This internal code is also occasionally omitted based on reports from Canon owners.) The last letter stands for the name of the factory. In this case, "F" stands for Fukushima which was the main Canon SLR factory for about 20 years from the early 70s until 1991. (The factory code is rarely omitted, if ever.)

So a body with the Code "U1140F" was made in November of 1980 at the Fukushima factory.


Starting in 1986, the year code was restarted with "A" again, but the factory code was placed before it. Now that Canon SLRs are no longer manufactured at Fukushima, you're more likely to see a code starting with "O" for Oita. So, for SLRs manufactured in 1994, you might see a code starting with "OI" followed by the month code.

Letter Year
A 1986, 1960
B 1987, 1961
C 1988, 1962
D 1989, 1963
E 1990, 1964
F 1991, 1965
G 1992, 1966
H 1993, 1967
I 1994, 1968
J 1995, 1969
K 1996, 1970
L 1997, 1971
M 1998, 1972
N 1999, 1973
O 2000, 1974
P 2001, 1975
Q 2002, 1976
R 2003, 1977
S 2004, 1978
T 2005, 1979
U 2006, 1980
V 2007, 1981
W 2008, 1982
X 2009, 1983
Y 2010, 1984
Z 2011, 1985
The same type of code is printed on the back of many (but not all) EF lenses as well, typically in small white characters on a black baffle in the rear lens mount. Since Canon's SLR lens factory is in Utsonomiya, you might see a date code starting with "UG" for a lens manufactured in 1992, for example. Prior to 1986 the lens date code

(copied from Bob Atkins site)


Edited on Feb 08, 2008 at 01:59 AM



Feb 08, 2008 at 01:57 AM
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About the microadjustment as we all can see the problem microadjustment just not work the way as advertised or we all do not know how to use it. The Autofocus problems that all we have is cause by that silly teknics that were described for the adjustment of D70 back ro front focus check with 45degrees and a tripod. This is no the way to do it and we all proved that when we went to field to make some photos after the all night adjustments and the result was amazingly poor. The reason that the aligment procedure is not working is that this Camera Mark III has definately more resolution in AF sensors than D70 we need to redisign a new printed form to make that alingment. On the other hand we need a very stable triopod with a head that can handle 16Kg to be stable for that micro adjustment. And of course the use of a TFT monitor for remote photographing is absolutely needed. Do no t look anyware else for the problem I am sure that this is and nothing else. Canon maybe should give a software Kit to do it at home.


Feb 08, 2008 at 02:21 AM
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I would love to agree with you, but the fact that all my Canon bodies perform great without any adjustment makes me think there is more to it than that. This includes my Mark III PRIOR to sending it to Canon.

I adjusted mine with that chart you mention, as well as the new one that was posted here recently (the LCD moire pattern)...But what worked for me (at least for the 1st lens tonight) was just shooting a bunch, making adjustment, shooting a bunch more, adjust, and so on. When I got home it was obvious which adjustment made the most dramatic difference. For me, (at least on my 70-200F2.8 IS) it was +15 microadjustment.

We should not have to be making all these adjustments...If all my other bodies (including Nikon) performed great with a set of lenses, the Mark III should as well. I am not even referring to AI-SERVO specifically either.. One-shot was way off equally.

I'd love to visit Greece someday... My grandmother is Greek.

Take care...

Andrew



Feb 08, 2008 at 02:40 AM
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Adrew I would like if it is possible to give a link about the recently posted LCD moire pattern because I could not find it. I made some adjustments with the 70-200 2.8L IS and 24-70 and with the pattern from D70 gave me +3 for 70-200 and +12 for 24-70 but in real life I had worse results than from the factory adjustments and actually I could not stay mine. After I made a real life adjustment and I saw stable reasults meaning that the teknik that is described so far has some error points. I have to declare that my camera has not been changed the submirror stopper as our Canon service proved me that there is no reason to do that (if btw that problem appears in any time they will change it without any charge)

If you visit Greece try to do that any month except August as this month is full of people here ....

your Grandmother is Greek please PM more information if you like

take care U2 Adrew

Dimitris



Feb 08, 2008 at 03:16 AM
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Dimitris,

The pattern is here...

http://www.xs4all.nl/~bvdwolf/main/foto/down_sample/down_sample_files/Rings1.gif

It comes from this thread which explains how to use it.

http://www.openphotographyforums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4708.html

Quick explanation: Display this pattern on your computer monitor at 100% (full size).

While pointing your camera at the image, either take a series of images or use Live View to make adjustments. Basically, the image (when focused best) will show the most moire and color abberation.

Nearly 3am here in Dallas, TX... I guess I should quit reading forums and get some sleep.

Have a nice upcoming weekend.

Andrew



Feb 08, 2008 at 03:42 AM
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