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p.63 #1 · ['NEW Fix' UPDATE!] - MkIII AF still broken


Congrats Henry, I'm very glad to hear it! Keep us posted...

-Jeff



Mar 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you Henry


Mar 13, 2008 at 10:02 PM
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Got my 1DM3 back from "AF-Adjustements" (544XXX but no need for SubM fix) three weeks ago. Since then iīve been working with it daily.
All i can say; Works great!
Well, not perfect because all lenses needed MA +5... But atliest itīs constant.
This should give hope to some. It can be fixed!



Mar 14, 2008 at 01:35 AM
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Congrats Henry!

PasiM - The more I use mine, the more that I am finding that MA +10 on all lenses seems to be working. At first, I had different adjustments for each lens, but as I have been experimenting, I believe +10 is the trick. Not using focus charts though...just real world shooting and adjusting. Focus charts gave me results that did not mirror real world results. Guessing it has something to do with quality of light. Just a guess though. VERY tired of guessing btw.






Mar 14, 2008 at 02:15 AM
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p.63 #5 · ['NEW Fix' UPDATE!] - MkIII AF still broken


Henry,

I hope you did not miss too much of your shooting season. Good luck with the new one.

apdieb,

I believe Canon intended the MA feature to be used in that way. I believe they used words like "in the same light" and "similar distance", etc. I don't recall them saying anything about focus charts. They did say it may keep you from returning a lens for calibration, and I believe they made a mistake there.

Richard K.



Mar 14, 2008 at 09:26 AM
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p.63 #6 · ['NEW Fix' UPDATE!] - MkIII AF still broken


Congrats to Henry


Mar 14, 2008 at 10:43 AM
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mill4570 wrote:
Henry,

I hope you did not miss too much of your shooting season. Good luck with the new one.

apdieb,

I believe Canon intended the MA feature to be used in that way. I believe they used words like "in the same light" and "similar distance", etc. I don't recall them saying anything about focus charts. They did say it may keep you from returning a lens for calibration, and I believe they made a mistake there.

Richard K.


Interesting..I had read that too in their literature.. Sheer craziness.. my other bodies shoot fine under differing situations and light. Last thing I want to be doing is calibrating every time my light or focal length changes. Call me picky.

Although I am getting better at "guestimating" in the field, I am not confident with MA on the fly for something important.

PITA.



Mar 14, 2008 at 01:53 PM
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fudge factors are never a good thing.

all the lenses should be calibrated to a known standard. if the 1d3 is not calibrated to that standard, then it should be. and it should function around that standard +/- some small tolerance, for all conditions (light, temperature, constellation orientation).

i can't imagine doing a MA adjustment on the fly. especially since i've heard that depending on the lens focal length and subject distance, these MA settings possibly don't work... so is this some crazy non-linear system or what?



Mar 14, 2008 at 02:13 PM
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p.63 #9 · ['NEW Fix' UPDATE!] - MkIII AF still broken


I haven't kept up with this thread but I thought many of you might be interested in my recent experiences while in East Africa. I was on assignment but also took advantage of the opportunity to do some stock work. During my travels (three weeks) I came into contact with 11 Mark III owners and 2 !Ds Mark III owners. All of the Mark III owners were having focus issues. Five of them had sent their bodies in for the submirror fix. At least for wildlife and bird work, this body does not cut it. Many have fallen back on their Mark IIn but now miss the feature set of the Mark III new Mark III sesries. What a pity Canon didn't get it right. The IDs doesn't seem to have the autofocus problems but the file size and the buffer capacity are limiting for serious work. One half the owners seem to believe that Canon will introcduce a new Mark III before summer. I have thought so as well but their latest announcement seems to suggest they still think they have fixed the problem. One shouldn't need a degree in optical enigineering to focus a camera. If Nikon fill out its lens lineup a bit, there will be many converts.
Cheers-Red



Mar 14, 2008 at 05:48 PM
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Had mine in 3 times for AF issue. I believe they finally got it right this last time. Recalibrated the AF sensors after the sub mirror fix. Its just a thing of beauty now.


Mar 14, 2008 at 07:55 PM
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Well I got my M3/400 back from Canon yesterday and cant say I am impressed anymore so that when it left. Here is what the paperwork said when I got it back.

Body:
We have examined the product according to your request, and, it was found that the product performed according to specifications. After investigation/inspection, no problems were found. Other inspection and cleaning were carried out.

Lens:
We have examined the product according to your request, and, it was found that the product performed according to specifications. the auto focus did not operate properly. Electrical adjustments were carried out on the pcb assembly. Other inspection and cleaning were carried out.

Well I tried it on some Lax warm ups and then walked to the street and shot some cars. I shot it just as they sent it back and it seemed to front focus. I just checked my settings and I had set ( off the RG report) all MA to -1. That was still left the same when it came back. I would think if they tested it they would reset that to 0? So if I FF do I need to go larger - or to the + side?



Mar 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
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Stick in +10 and retry

That is exactly what I saw once they "FIXED" mine.

It is much better after having 2-3ft Front Focused issues.

Looking at my images today...I may even go +12 and retry... Shooting some MX (Motocross) tomorrow...




Mar 15, 2008 at 11:36 PM
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For what it is worth, I noticed a similar problem with the "blurriness" when I upgraded the SD-550 to the SD-900.

During my initial shooting, I thought the image quality from the SD-550 at 7mp was better than the SD-900 at 10mp.

The SD-900 also has Digic III (i think).




Mar 16, 2008 at 11:15 AM
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Well.. I shot motocross today in bright sun with my 300...

Results were great. I shot at all angles to the sun and had very good results. So...For now....I feel better.




Mar 16, 2008 at 07:43 PM
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I think it's telling that at the latest exhibition for the BBC/Shell Wildlife photographer of the year, not a single image was taken with a 1D III. Plenty of 1D II and 1Ds II and 20D images among Canon shooters and for Nikon shooters plenty fo D2X and D200, D70 shots.
Be interesting if next years comp has 1D III shots or how D300/D3 start to dominate.



Mar 16, 2008 at 07:51 PM
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Well test kind of quick show that +5 seems to be the sharpest. Hopefully next weekend I will be able to get out and shoot some sports, just sounds like no hope of sun.


Mar 16, 2008 at 08:11 PM
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p.63 #17 · ['NEW Fix' UPDATE!] - MkIII AF still broken


Henry,

Did you collect your new Mk-III ? How does it compare to the old one ?



Mar 17, 2008 at 12:49 PM
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mdurisseau wrote:
I got a call from Canon today...just to preface, I was contacted about three weeks ago about my Mark III, after I sent a letter to Canon's CEO and some of the other executives.
I sent a DVD of images to Canon a couple of weeks ago, and now that they've had time to review it, they asked me to send in my body for the engineers to take a look at. The good thing is that I will have a chance to use a CPS body with MY settings and the way I shoot, to figure out if there really
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An update...

I sent my Mark III back to Canon, at their request, about 2 weeks ago now...I got the body back on Wednesday, shot some baseball yesterday...it's too soon to tell, but the initial impression looks good...fewer out of focus images, for certain. But I want to put it through its paces soon...

I will post the note that Canon sent with my camera regarding the issue they felt it had, and what they did...



Mar 21, 2008 at 07:30 PM
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mdurisseau wrote:
I will post the note that Canon sent with my camera regarding the issue they felt it had, and what they did...


I'd be interested in seeing that documentation. Thanks for the update!

-J



Mar 21, 2008 at 09:51 PM
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**UPDATE***
Well, I was on page 14 talking about how the MKIII was acting funny with my 35L and only that lens, and only when the flash was attached, well, it stopped doing that, but then it started giving me a serious lag with the shutter button, now, as of the other day, in the middle of a baseball tournament I was covering.. it died on me.. err 99, every time I pressed the shutter, err 99.. I almost threw the thing into the lake, but I composed myself and now its on the way to canon, I must say that so far Canon CPS has been kind to me, so let's see if they can fix this thing right the first time.. I just hope I don't end up like a lot of other horror stories around here with people sending it back 2-3 times and canon saying it is fine and "at specs"...
I will do another update when I get the camera back.

Charles



Mar 22, 2008 at 09:14 AM
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