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Archive 2007 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8

  
 
Tobias Saint
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p.1 #1 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


How much sharper is the 1.2L and I see many references to an 85 1.8L but am not able to find ?


Nov 28, 2007 at 07:18 PM
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p.1 #2 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8



There is no 85mm f/1.8L ... it's a non-L lens, the 85mm f/1.8.

Sharper? Everyone has an opinion...I'll leave it at that. Both are sharp, IMO.

Faster AF...goes to the 85mm f/1.8.

Better bokeh...goes to the 85mm f/1.2L.

CA...a little on the 85mm f/1.8...for the price, I can live with it.



Nov 28, 2007 at 07:27 PM
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p.1 #3 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


Thanks - that's what I thought but I have seen so many references to it as a 85 1.8L I figured I was missing something. I'm a wall portrait guy who sells 50" and 60" portraits so sharpness is more important than speed or bokeh.


Nov 28, 2007 at 07:32 PM
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p.1 #4 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


I'll second everything Forrest said and add one more point. The 85mm f/1.8 represents exceptional value, it really is a fantastic lens for the price.


Nov 28, 2007 at 07:33 PM
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p.1 #5 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


I'd be curious to know that myself. I shot some images at f/1.2 last weekend, here's some crop comparisons. Maybe someone can do the same with the 85 f/1.8.

uncropped image
http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/photos/225145377-XL.jpg

100% crop unsharpened
http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/photos/226612447-O.jpg
100% crop moderate sharpening
http://mrs-h.smugmug.com/photos/226612426-O.jpg



Nov 28, 2007 at 07:38 PM
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p.1 #6 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


Tobias Saint wrote:
How much sharper is the 1.2L and I see many references to an 85 1.8L but am not able to find ?


never seen one, never heard of one, never heard anyone mention anything about a 1.8L. Can you provides links to any of these?



Nov 28, 2007 at 07:50 PM
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p.1 #7 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


I have had the 85mm f/1.8 for several years. Its not heavy, on a 20d and then a 40D it focuses quickly and surely, even in very low light. I shoot stagework with it and shoot at f/1.8 all night long without a care (except if i need more dof). I had three 50mm lenses and never got the hang of them. The lens makes nice portraits.

i just got a beautiful f/1.2L V1. It was $1100.00 - It is big and slow to focus. But at f/1.2 it is positively amazing. Sharp, contrasty, and the dof is amazing. Every picture becomes a portrait. I just sit and look at it.

if you shoot at f/2.8 save your money and get the f/1.8 lens. Its really a great lens. If you want dreamy bookeh and razor sharp dof, well, you know what to do.



Nov 28, 2007 at 08:01 PM
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p.1 #8 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


jamesf99 wrote:
never seen one, never heard of one, never heard anyone mention anything about a 1.8L. Can you provides links to any of these?



It was the guy's first post, maybe helping him understand the differences as did the second post by Forrest.



Nov 28, 2007 at 09:35 PM
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p.1 #9 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


Here is the 85/1.8 with moderate sharpening










Nov 28, 2007 at 09:55 PM
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p.1 #10 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


85 1.2 vis a vis 1.8. Its been awhile...

Edited by John Power on Nov 28, 2007 at 10:00 PM GMT



Nov 28, 2007 at 09:59 PM
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p.1 #11 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


thedigitalbean wrote:
I'll second everything Forrest said and add one more point. The 85mm f/1.8 represents exceptional value, it really is a fantastic lens for the price.


I'll third that, and also add the the 85/1.2 L also has CA wide open.

They are as sharp as each other. The 85L has "better" bokeh, but anyone who knows what they are doing can get spectacular bokeh from the 1.8.

The *only* advantage to the 85L is the speed difference. It is up to you to decide if it is worth all that money.



Nov 28, 2007 at 09:59 PM
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p.1 #12 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


John Power wrote:
Its been awhile...





Nov 28, 2007 at 10:00 PM
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p.1 #13 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


jamesf99 wrote:
never seen one, never heard of one, never heard anyone mention anything about a 1.8L. Can you provides links to any of these?


Actually, I think many people refer to it as the 85/1.8 L, because it might just as well be an L.



Nov 28, 2007 at 10:03 PM
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p.1 #14 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


Here's the 85/1.8 "L" wide open. Just a sample I chose quickly. Anyone wants to see more, let me know. (This is on a 20D. It is even nicer on a 5D).

http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/85/IMG_9044.jpg



Nov 28, 2007 at 10:26 PM
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p.1 #15 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


Here's one with the 85 1.8L, @ 7.1







Nov 28, 2007 at 10:41 PM
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p.1 #16 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


I liked my 85 1.8 but got rid of it due to really bad CA. Of course I didn't help it much shooting a bride's white dress with a bright sun coming in from behind, every edge on the right was bright purple.


Nov 28, 2007 at 10:52 PM
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p.1 #17 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


SKYWESTR wrote:
I liked my 85 1.8 but got rid of it due to really bad CA. Of course I didn't help it much shooting a bride's white dress with a bright sun coming in from behind, every edge on the right was bright purple.



Time for a black and white print !



Nov 28, 2007 at 10:56 PM
cogitech
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p.1 #18 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


SKYWESTR wrote:
I liked my 85 1.8 but got rid of it due to really bad CA. Of course I didn't help it much shooting a bride's white dress with a bright sun coming in from behind, every edge on the right was bright purple.


Should have stopped down, I'd say.



Nov 28, 2007 at 11:19 PM
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p.1 #19 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


Here are my observations (opinions):

Size/weight: 1.8 is much smaller and lighter
Build quality: 1.2L is much (much!) better build quality
Focusing speed: 1.8 is much faster focusing (good for indoor sports)
Sharpness: both are sharp, 1.2L is somewhat sharper up to f/3.2
bokeh: 1.2L is just incredible (unbeatable for thin DOF shots)
Contrast: 1.2L better
CA: 1.2L (MkII that is) has less CA wide open than 1.8

They are much different lenses really. I'd get the 1.2L for portraits and 1.8 for sports or moving objects.

Edited by Richard Nye on Nov 29, 2007 at 06:02 AM GMT



Nov 28, 2007 at 11:25 PM
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p.1 #20 · 85 1.2L vs 85 1.8


CA ruins b&w (digital) too... of course it really isn't "CA" so if you shoot film you don't get it... but that's beside the point.

ShaneEngelking wrote:
Time for a black and white print !




Nov 28, 2007 at 11:30 PM
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