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Archive 2007 · Approached by "PerksCard"

  
 
ivyinvestor
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p.1 #1 · Approached by "PerksCard"


Have any of you been approached by the business called *PerksCard* to become the "exclusive [fill-in-the-blank] business partner to [fill-in-the-blank] institution"? For fair disclosure, it does appear that they are used by a number of large education, corporate, and government institutions, including the Univ. of South Carolina, AOL, and the FBI.

Let me explain.

I fielded a call this afternoon that began as if it were a solicitation for me to cover a pool of folks various needs over the coming weeks - from portraits to wedding to special event coverage. About halfway through the phone call, our discussion became "an interview" to see if a fairly prominent DC hospital would consider selecting me as the sponsored "go to" photographer for the needs of its personnel. Suspicious of the proposition of being cold called to qualify for on the call list of 2200 people - from orderlies to doctors - I wanted to see where the discussion would go.

A company called PerksCard (PC) essentially offers a service that institutions pay them for to vet local businesses that are inclined to discount their services for the promise of "huge" customer bases. For example, the representative made reference to attorneys, planners, consultants, etc. Apparently this year, this hospital wants to add "photographer" to the trusted business associates' list.

Of course, it costs $995 to become a part of the service.

With competition in the DC area very tight, a legitimate service such as this (not saying that *this one* is legitimate) could certainly help on the marketing front (something akin to this, in fact, my wife and I have recently discussed). I have shot a number of jobs on my own, and love the prospect of adding a larger clientèle, but I must say that this smacks of a scheme wherein PC would charge the up front fee, and then not play any further role, effectively moving on until renewal time (12 months). After all, one cannot make someone use a photographer - or select me even if they wanted one. So, if I ended up with 0 customers as a result, they're not accountable for anything.

I've made a list of pros and cons, but - in the light of how poorly companies such as Bella are regarded in the photography industry, and especially in this forum - I was hoping to learn if any of you have been approached by, or have signed up to use, the services of PerksCard.

General Pros:
-If legitimate, the fee could easily be paid for in a session or two.
-If legitimate, the customer base could certainly increase from its present size.
-If legitimate, it would be nice to further enhance the customer base beyond just hospital staff, to their friends and family, etc.

General Cons:
-The slightly manipulative call, along with blanket lauding of my work was without conviction.
-The fee, without much to show for it (no trial period, no stats backing up their "increased customer base", etc) is troubling.
-Just like the car dealer says, the deal "won't last long", as the CSR suggested that I get on board by tomorrow morning or others in the area would likely snap up the position.

In short, I'm inclined to run for the hills. But then, what of the list of companies who *do* use their services? (Maybe it's not much of a risk for them, considering their budgets!) Any comments?



Oct 24, 2007 at 04:24 PM
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p.1 #2 · Approached by "PerksCard"


The fee makes it look like a scam right up front.


Oct 24, 2007 at 04:29 PM
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p.1 #3 · Approached by "PerksCard"


Yeah, that and the fact that they waited until halfway through the conversation to tell me about it...Oh, by the way...

Still, it does remind me of that StudentAdvantage program...Not that I'd want to be associated with that now, but I certainly enjoyed it when I was in school... ... .. .. .



Oct 24, 2007 at 04:31 PM
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p.1 #4 · Approached by "PerksCard"


If it's really a good deal, it'll be a good deal tomorrow, too. Sounds like a scam. They have no numbers to back up their claims. If they're so good, why haven't we heard of them before? If they're just starting out, do you really want to be the guinea pig?!?!

The style of cold call is alarming, too. Do you want that type of salesteam putting YOUR name out there? What if people associate their pushy attitude with YOUR business! YIKES!

In the immortal words of King Arthur: "RUN AWAY!!! RUN AWAY!!"



Oct 24, 2007 at 08:30 PM
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p.1 #5 · Approached by "PerksCard"


If you knock $10 off your price, that means you need 100 customers from this source to break even. Gee, what happens if you knock $20 off? Or $30?


Oct 25, 2007 at 05:28 AM
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p.1 #6 · Approached by "PerksCard"


I wouldn't necessarily say they are a scam. It sounds like they are charging your a ton of money to be in a "networking club". You can usually join these for next to nothing.

It also doesn't guarantee you any work.

Edited by j.curtis on Oct 25, 2007 at 07:33 AM GMT (Reason: Piss poor spelling)



Oct 25, 2007 at 06:14 AM
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p.1 #7 · Approached by "PerksCard"


Following the rule "If it SOUNDS too good to be true it probably IS too good to be true" will keep you out of a lot more trouble than it will get you into.


Oct 25, 2007 at 06:36 AM
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p.1 #8 · Approached by "PerksCard"


I have looked into this a bit. This is a not uncommon business line. It is essentially the same thing as the large coupon books you can purchase for $30 dollars or so. There are large numbers of coupons in the book that you can use. The PerksCard get you discounts at many vendors, including some large names (Expedia, Hertz, etc). How good the discounts are I can't say since only members see the details.

Some of my questions to them would be...

1. How many PerksCard members in my area?
2. Will I be the only PerksCard photographer in my area?
3. What types of discounts do you expect me to offer?
4. Is the fee an annual fee?
5. What type of marketing will you do to generate photography business?
6. As a vendor, am I entitled to a PerksCard at no additional cost?



Oct 25, 2007 at 10:43 AM
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p.1 #9 · Approached by "PerksCard"


Yes, I was approached by them this past summer. It was to be the "exclusive" photographer for a large company that basically handles government contracts.

I passed on their "offer".

Todd Asher
TJ Asher Photography Studios
www.tjasher.com
Portrait and Wedding Photographer - Minneapolis, MN



Oct 25, 2007 at 12:48 PM
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p.1 #10 · Approached by "PerksCard"


The offer of exclusivity does not really fit with this type of business. I wonder first if the call you are getting is really from PerksCare. If so, then they might have some salesman using less than honest tactics since the real PerksCard does not offer such levels of exclusivity. The best you can normally hope for is geographical exclusivity.


Oct 25, 2007 at 01:24 PM
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p.1 #11 · Approached by "PerksCard"


Hey, folks,

I did give up on this, as I feared the possible negatives (or even neutrals) outweighed the positives. Yearly rollover (paid) renewals, and "exclusivity" for a shooting employees of a hospital - even a 2200-strong one - doesn't guarantee anything.

In any case, I was to have called them back if I were interested (which I didn't, and wasn't) - but that didn't stop them from calling me.

They weren't able to produce the stats I requested (only for members) regarding advertising, growth, and membership, and said that there were no exceptions.

So, "buh bye" to them.

Thanks for your responses, all.
i



Oct 25, 2007 at 02:09 PM





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