A: Who cares about the ISO? Why are people even mentioning it on a full frame? Does anyone here shoot anything thats worth publication here past 1600/3200?
B: Is anyone here going to use canons software? I've just always used PS, Aperture or iPhoto.
Each iteration of DPP gets better and better at raw conversion. With the new lens info it should get much better, at least until ACR catches up. My understanding is that ACR uses the Canon SDK as the basis of its converter so they should catchup in about 6 months. DPP while probably the best raw converter, is still a klunky program which if it had a better editor and interface would rival PS in IQ.
stits wrote:
Two points of intrest while reading the thread.
A: Who cares about the ISO? Why are people even mentioning it on a full frame? Does anyone here shoot anything thats worth publication here past 1600/3200?
I care, and yes, I do push the ISO that hard, with decent results. Usable high ISO is a useful thing, but it's critical if you do a lot of low-light work, and need to maintain DoF while avoiding motion blur. How you could casually ask "who cares about the ISO" is completely baffling to me... can you not conceive that many would care about the high ISO, and with good reason?
lordarka wrote:
I care, and yes, I do push the ISO that hard, with decent results. Usable high ISO is a useful thing, but it's critical if you do a lot of low-light work, and need to maintain DoF while avoiding motion blur. How you could casually ask "who cares about the ISO" is completely baffling to me... can you not conceive that many would care about the high ISO, and with good reason?
Arka C.
I don't know, I've never really been impressed with anything past 800 IMHO. Frankly when it gets dark I grab the trusty 50:1.4 and shoot with at least a monopod.
Not all pictures are of daylight senics. I have shot 10 thousands of images at 1600 ISO + and exhibited the best of them in super glossy 13x19" prints. It really depends on the subject, photoshop technique, print quality and viewing distance.
I want to emphasize that these are pictures that exist no other way (dim stage lit dancers in performance with no flash/strobes typically F2.0 or so and 1/125 sec to stop some of the motion).
I think you are right...and now that you mention it on a new release not that long ago, I did give up with BH for it...but they are the best for most other things...
I usually use B&H, but I called several times and one person would tell me you could pre order, but be charged; another said you could just pre-order, but when transferred for both purposes I was told they don't take preorders; and that the release date was sometime around December 10th.
When I mentioned other employees on the phone told me it could be done, he pretty much hung up. I was a bit disappointed, but preorders are probably a pain in the neck to manage. I still consider them a good source, but I'll be looking around for the 1DsIII pre order options.
I can't say enough good things about B&H..I order from them every week it seems..but I do remember them being slow for the D200 and I gave up on trying to get it there.
Meanwhile Amazon is not accepting preorders for the Mark III yet
Alan321 wrote:
Do you really want to be the first to spend that much money on something that doesn't AF properly ? It is based on 1D3 technology.
Well of course not...but I will order it from a place that accepts returns without question in the even it is a problem...I am lusting after this camera and need it now!!
I'd probably go with Ritz camera since they're one of the largest chains. Large chain stores should get more units. Since B&H is just one store (but a popular one), I don't think they get as many units as the bigger chains during camera launch.
Since you'll be paying retail price for the new camera anyways it's not going to cost you any more if you purchase at Ritz camera. Usually their prices are much higher on camera gears... and from what I've heard their customer service is blegh... but I got my 40D there with no problem.
I'll check them out...I am of course concerned with focus problems and only want to deal with a store that wont give me a hard time if I am unhappy with the camera...
Sucks we have to even think about this as I want this camera badly..
