Canon listened. I'm really exited about this one, but then its short lived. Switzerland overcharges for everything, and I am guessing they are going to charge 1400 bucks instead of 1299 like always. I really need this camera fast, but I am not sure if its smart ordering one online, since I am not sure if the first few copies are going to be lemons.
It's not the guys shooting weddings with an f/4 zoom that need this. I've got a 50/1.4 I had to send back to Canon three times before it would focus right. It's brilliant now, but I could have saved $50 in shipping and a month of cumulative time if I could have done it myself.
AF adjustment is purely firmware, it costs them nothing to add it. It's such a no-brainer to have in all the cameras that I'm genuinely surprised Canon didn't put it in the 40D.
Mauro Moretti wrote:
If the IQ from the 40D approaches the 5D, ¿Do you think the price of the 5D will need to drop to maintain competitiveness?
no, i think it will have to drop because of 5DMkII, but that is still a while away. also i don't think the 40D will beat out 5D for pure image quality, it has smaller pixel sensors and less MP. some fo the jpg processign should be better though in some ways.
i think 5DMkII and 1DMkIII will rule for high ISO, next canon 5D, then 1DsMkIII, then 40D, then 20D/30D, then 400D, then 10D/300D.
USB "host" capability: Plug compatible USB devices into WFT-E2A, for use with the EOS 40D; GPS devices (write GPS time, coordinates, and altitude info into each file's EXIF info); external hard drive (connect compact external USB hard drive, and write files directly from camera to the hard drive as if it's an additional memory card)
Rubber Soul wrote:
But the 1DsmkIII and 1DmkIII are new models that were (or will be) released in 2007. If Canon stays true to their history, neither professional model will see a real upgrade again until the year 2010. I doubt that Canon is holding back on any new technology for future models.
I think it's incredible that Canon decided to implement so many professional features into a prosumer model. The 10 MP sensor, 3" LCD, and dust reduction were a given. Bigger viewfinder, sRAW, and wireless were a mild surprise.
But weather sealing? 14-bit RAW? 6.5 fps? Dual high precision center AF point? All other AF points became cross type? Interchangeable focus screens? If someone told me last week that the EOS 40D would have all these things, I would've dismissed it as a fanboy's wishful thinking....Show more →
Upgraded viewfinder and auto focus are what I most wanted to see. Hope they both prove to be substantial improvements.
talexander wrote:
One feature overlooked in tech specs:
USB "host" capability: Plug compatible USB devices into WFT-E2A, for use with the EOS 40D; GPS devices (write GPS time, coordinates, and altitude info into each file's EXIF info); external hard drive (connect compact external USB hard drive, and write files directly from camera to the hard drive as if it's an additional memory card)
... think of the possibilities.
Tim
The WFT-E2A is 999$, I think that's a bit expensive. It's basically the same as you pay for the whole body!
But yes, I was quite eager about that as well, until I saw the price that is.
Does anyone know anything more about the data verification stuff? I see the kit they speak of sells for like $1000... which is way too pricey for me, even if it is a useful feature... But, I guess I am still interested in exactly what this feature is capable of. One of the things that has always bothered me when using portable storage devices, or even when transferring data to a PC, is that there really is no easy way to verify that the image file did not get corrupt some how. I always wanted some sort of check sum that could verify the integrity of the data... Not sure if that is what this data verification business is all about, but would like to find out...
"Data verification: "Original Image Data" can be appended to each image via Custom Function IV-6-1; requires optional Canon Original Data Security Kit OSK-E3 to check authenticity"
Okay, I'll jump on board the 40D salivation train. It does look like Amazon made a rather serious faux paux in releasing the info, but the damage has been done. Screen grabs and copied content of the specs do seem to have perpetuated the Internet. From here to TOP and all points in between, it seems Canon will likely be best served by not waiting any longer to make the announcement...the wind is with them as the speculation is at its pique, but if they want to maintain this frenzy, they'd be better served to release the news now rather than wait another 3 weeks.
For what it's worth, my interest was primarily in the WFT-E2a along with the following details:
Wireless transfer methods: 802.11b or 802.11g; link speed: approximately 11 megabits/second (802.11b) or 54 megabits/second (802.11g)
• Connection method: Infrastructure or Ad Hoc (802.11g functions in Ad Hoc mode)
• Maximum wireless distance: Approximately 490 feet (150 meters), if "receiver" has its own antenna (depends on environment)
• Wireless channels: 11 (in North American market)
• Ethernet (wired) transfer: Yes; Ethernet 100Base-TX (maximum distance approximately 1,000 feet); link speed: approximately 100 megabits/second
• Transfer options: 1. FTP mode (images sent to folder on host computer); 2. PTP mode (remote control of camera possible from computer); 3. HTTP mode (view camera's files using web browser; remote firing of camera possible)
• Security options: Encryption: WEP or TKIP/AES; authentication: open system, WPA-PSK, or WPA2-PSK
I am surprised no one else has realized the value this adds to the camera. Think about this: people could now theoretically have high res images transferred almost instantly from camera to website (wireless transfer to a PC folder could be an images folder on a web server that recognizes the credentials of this via WEP, TKIP/AES, WPA or WPA2. The possibilities are endless ere - journalism will change, blogging will change, so much will likely change with the delivery of high res imagery to the internet almost at the same instant of capture...it really is incredible. And you can be a part of it for $1299? Who can say no to that?
I was waiting until it came out to snag a 30D at discounted rates, but given teh wireless features, and the possible inclusion of the WFT-E2A, it just seems like the best course of action to add $300 and get the latest and greatest rather than 1 generation old.
I got the XT three years ago, passed on the XTi, as well as the 30D...I think the time has come to upgrade!
Edited by Jason Anderson on Aug 19, 2007 at 04:10 PM GMT
I think it's mostly designed for law enforcement/legal/medical which require "proof" of original-unaltered images. Don't ask me HOW they can possibly prove it's unaltered (since it's still a file and I imagine if you know the method for detection you could take it) but that's the use.
As mentioned before, - have you seen the price of the WFT-E2A wireless transmitter?
B&H has it for 999$ which I find to pricey, - you can get a body for that price!
But except for that, you are totally right. It's a fantastic peace of equipment!
Having a second guy doing editing and perhaps even printing while you shoot!
Or howabout setting up a camera (or two) in the church (for weddings) or above the goal (for basket games) or similar and just have you tiny laptop any shoot away. You can see everything with live preview and you can even adjust shuttertime, aperture etc. (No zoom or pan of course, - unless you make a Goldberg construction yourself :-))
Alright I'm glad the 40D has finally been confirmed and theres a release date and all that stuff, but please, can we wait until it at least comes out to start speculating on what it's replacement will be. A "50D" or whatever it will be is a minimum 18-20 months away at the least and the technology going into it probably hasn't been introduced into the market yet. It's just ridiculous at this point.
p.s. I cant wait until they release the 1000D in 2015 with its 142MP and wireless eyepiece and it'll take advantage of the new ef-z lenses (it will come standard with the 14-2000 f/1 IS). I heard it'll be 32bit and capable of iso 51,200. It also floats and has a built in gyroscopic stabilizer so no need for a tripod.
talexander wrote:
I think it's mostly designed for law enforcement/legal/medical which require "proof" of original-unaltered images. Don't ask me HOW they can possibly prove it's unaltered (since it's still a file and I imagine if you know the method for detection you could take it) but that's the use.
Tim
That's exactly what it is, and it is a very thourough checksum of some kind. It means that there is electronic proof of content in the image (i.e. not photoshopped to insert/remove content). Very handy for law enforcement, private detectives, and paparazzi alike. By enabling the feature in camera for free, the authentication will always be there in the ORIGINAL image file - which means you have to keep the unedited original as the proof.
talexander wrote:
Carlton: But still on F/8 central sensor? I'll wait for the 2000D.
Tim
I agree wholeheartedly. I'm almost considering holding out for the 1dMMMVCIV, I'm sure they're already working on it what with getting the whole auto focus problem under control by 2147.
Carlton Beener wrote:
Alright I'm glad the 40D has finally been confirmed and theres a release date and all that stuff, but please, can we wait until it at least comes out to start speculating on what it's replacement will be. A "50D" or whatever it will be is a minimum 18-20 months away at the least and the technology going into it probably hasn't been introduced into the market yet. It's just ridiculous at this point.
p.s. I cant wait until they release the 1000D in 2015 with its 142MP and wireless eyepiece and it'll take advantage of the new ef-z lenses (it will come standard with the 14-2000 f/1 IS). I heard it'll be 32bit and capable of iso 51,200. It also floats and has a built in gyroscopic stabilizer so no need for a tripod....Show more →
I very much disagree!
The 50D is not a 'future camera with spectacular technology we haven't even heard about yet'. It's will, I believe, be a minor update with same sensor (that's the usual way for Canon to do it).
You might not find it interesting, - that's fine. But why be ridiculous and try to stop other people from discussing it?
Just because I don't like taking pictures of flowers doesn't mean I should try to sabotage every discussion about this topic that I hear about.
Careful what y'all say...next thing you know, Amazon will post a pre-buy link to the 2000D and then get their hand slapped by Canon again for releasing technical data too early for the marketing heads to spin things so they can get their cut...