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p.20 #1 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


I don't come here for politics.

Can we get back to the 40D now please?



Aug 21, 2007 at 03:46 AM
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p.20 #2 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


J.D. wrote:
I don't come here for politics.

Can we get back to the 40D now please?


Didn't you write about a helicopter before in this thread



Aug 21, 2007 at 03:55 AM
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p.20 #3 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


Like you said, maybe you need to read a proper specificiation as you seem blissfully unaware of most the changes.


Aug 21, 2007 at 03:56 AM
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p.20 #4 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


Ok, I'll reach for the bold tags and do a bit of yelling

STOP TALKING ABOUT WEATHERSEALING!

Ahh, that felt good, to do some senseless yelling. Ok, seriously though.

This is from the "From the manufacturer" product description at the Amazon.com 40D page:

Enhanced Durability

Recognizing the often rigorous shooting conditions encountered by professional and advanced amateur photographers, Canon design engineers made the EOS 40D SLR's magnesium alloy exterior even more ruggedly dependable than its predecessors with upgraded dust- and weather-resistant construction, particularly around the camera's connection ports, battery compartment, and single-slot compact flash (CF) memory card door. [...]


So there you have it. It can withstand dust and moisture better than the 10/20/30D. No word about sealing at all.



Aug 21, 2007 at 04:14 AM
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p.20 #5 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


J.D. wrote:
I don't come here for politics.

Can we get back to the 40D now please?


Hi JD a quote from Canon's Press Room Latest News in Oz:

"The Canon EOS 40D will be available in Body Only (RRP $1,999.00) and as a kit with EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM Lens (RRP $2,799.00). These kits and accessories are all available from August 25th, 2007 through Canon dealers nationally."

I was on the phone to Canon Sales when I came across this info, however the fellow on the other end of the line said we may have to wait a couple of months longer. I also contacted a Canon camera dealer I deal with and they were talking about the end of October.





Aug 21, 2007 at 04:17 AM
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p.20 #6 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


Two additional things that stood out to me:

  • 3 customisable pre-sets on the mode-dial
  • User-editable picture styles

    And yes, the D300 will give the 40D a big run for its money. Now that Sony went CMOS (with an additional twist: ADC converters per pixel row) Nikon will no longer have to deal with the poor noise at high ISO and it will bump FPS to more than 6.5 fps. But the question will be: at what cost, because the 40D is priced very attractively.


  • Aug 21, 2007 at 04:21 AM
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    p.20 #7 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    I do prefer the healthcare system run by my government, I’ve seen firsthand what is happening over there with the insurance companies, where you have them denying coverage all the time even when you pay everything on time, with no good reason just because well, it’s a business operation, not a system driven by true healthcare.. Things will cost what they cost over here, and not what the company decides to profit on top of the real cost, companies have to profit and I have no objection to that, but when we are talking about such fundamental things like health, I will trust the government over a company any day.

    Yes, companies will have to pay tax here and there, but they also receive funds when needed and justified, they do have benefits from those taxes, so do the employees.

    I do not consider tax to be stolen from me when I pay my taxes, why? Because that money goes to fund every single thing run by the government and that under normal circumstances only covers the really important things on a society. That money does not go into profiteering individuals. I have no reason to consider it a steal, I would if that money dint go into funding what I REALLY need, and what others more unfortunate that I am also need. When we feel that money isn’t been respectfully used we protest, and the government over here actually fears the people.

    It’s not a question of abdicating the responsibility for your own healthcare, everyone needs healthcare, even the ones that can’t afford it.

    Quite frankly, even if you had the best medical care as you say you have, that means nothing if you only get to have it if you have the money to pay for it, and even if you pay for insurance, I know for a fact that that is no guarantee that you will have the best medical care assured. Over here I know no hospital or medical facility run by my government is inaccessible to me, if I need it, and the decision that has to take place to decide if I need it is in the hands of medical professionals that do not profit in any way from denying or accepting anyone, in the US know the insurance companies deny coverage and reward the medical boards based on that...

    The medical professionals over here are actually rewarded based on successfully improving the health of patients they care for.

    And it won’t be the first time that if a treatment is not available here, the government pays for you to go where it is, even the US and your best medical care.

    I also find funny those complaints about Amazon, but that only tells me one thing, ignorance.
    Hell, people are always trying to get things cheaper, but believe me, if they had to choose between the benefits they get, or a cheaper 40D (among other things), they would go for the benefits every single time. But because they don’t have to choose, they try to get it cheaper in the US, they know their benefits are not going anywhere…

    The fact that you do not trust your government to deal with the healthcare is only indicative of its incompetence and or failure, and does worry me even when not affecting me directly, it does on a world politics stage, and we’ve all seen how limited mr Jr. Bush Jr is, and what that has done to the world.

    UK didn’t leave anyone without rescue/shelter/money for basic needs, etc. in its recent floods, it’s a Katrina done right, and this is why I understand you preferring companies to your own government, I wouldn’t trust them either.

    If you can’t trust your government to run healthcare, you can’t trust them to properly do oversight also, so you are left with the exact situation you have now, that leaves the legislation to the lobbies, they do the legislation, and the government stamps it, they do their own rules, just see the Medicare bill, it’s a true riot, they overcharge everything, a medication that costs 2 dollars in Canada is charged 800$ to the US government.

    And this is my final post about this because we are indeed too off topic :P

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    I will buy a 40D once properly tested by the communities, well, the people I trust to have the proper knowledge anyway :P.

    Jim Krupnik wrote:
    I have no problem with that at all. If you want "free" heatlth care, run by the government, you are free to pay for it in the form of higher prices for goods and services. The same with other percieved "benefits" of government run programs. It's not simply as transparent as sales and use tax in Canada though. There are many hidden corporate taxes and fees that inflate the cost of goods in an effort to send cash to Canadian government coffers that are then taxed again at the consumer purchase level.

    I prefer a different situation, where government doesn't
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    Aug 21, 2007 at 04:28 AM
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    p.20 #8 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Any idea when to expect an answer from Nikon?


    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:14 AM
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    p.20 #9 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    DmitriM wrote:
    Here the cameras I've used and tested: 300D,20D,10D,30D MK II. They have the same image quality. Some have certain advantages in some conditions(eg low light noise,where 5D seem to be better than any of those),but overall,they have the same quality. I however prefered to use 20D's jpegs vs 5Ds. It's just with 20D and 30D, it's much harder to get a perfect shot as they suffer from ff or bf issues,while 5D has much better tracking capabilities.
    Again,it's my own opinion. Maybe the cameras I had were defective



    First you say that all digic II cameras has the same image quality

    And here you even say that even the 6Mpx 10D digic I camera has the same image quality as the 8Mpx series 1 MKII and digic II camera



    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:17 AM
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    p.20 #10 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Tentacle wrote:
    Any idea when to expect an answer from Nikon?


    Supposely within a few days :
    https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/564111



    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:22 AM
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    p.20 #11 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Hoops I guess you saw it already since you posted in this thread!
    Cheers!



    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:23 AM
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    p.20 #12 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Fred Relaix wrote:
    Hoops I guess you saw it already since you posted in this thread!
    Cheers!


    I did

    But that's an expected announcement. Not the same as expected availability/market introduction.

    I guess that the next step will not be a D200x, but D300. In a few months? (wild guess)



    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:38 AM
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    p.20 #13 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Timing totally expected, 18mths after predecessor. Expect a 50D at end-Feb 2009....

    40D Aug 20, 2007 (approximately 18 months after predecessor)
    30D Feb 21, 2006 (approximately 18 months after predecessor)
    20D Aug 19, 2004 (approximately 18 months after predecessor)
    10D Feb 27, 2003 (approximately 12 months after predecessor)
    D60 Feb 22, 2002 (approximately 18 months after predecessor)
    D30 May 17, 2000



    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:40 AM
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    p.20 #14 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Tentacle wrote:
    And yes, the D300 will give the 40D a big run for its money. Now that Sony went CMOS (with an additional twist: ADC converters per pixel row) Nikon will no longer have to deal with the poor noise at high ISO and it will bump FPS to more than 6.5 fps. But the question will be: at what cost, because the 40D is priced very attractively.


    Imagine an 8fps, 12.5MP D300, that would decimate D2X sales, unless they've got something special for the D3X or D3H. I guess this sensor would could go in a new D3H and offer 12.5MP @ 10.4 fps and if high ISO noise is even close to the 1D III it'll be a great camera.



    Aug 21, 2007 at 05:43 AM
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    p.20 #15 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    I just found an Australian price for the 40D at
    https://www.camerasdirect.com.au/digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-40d-body.html
    $1849 au
    Just thought other aussies on here might like to know.



    Aug 21, 2007 at 06:04 AM
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    p.20 #16 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Tentacle wrote:
    I did

    But that's an expected announcement. Not the same as expected availability/market introduction.

    I guess that the next step will not be a D200x, but D300. In a few months? (wild guess)


    These are really only rumors, even some of the most Nikonians on the Nikon forums do not believe them! Hopefully the D300 will be even better than the rumors (like the 40D!).



    Aug 21, 2007 at 06:05 AM
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    p.20 #17 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    I just found an Australian price for the 40D at
    https://www.camerasdirect.com.au/digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-40d-body.html
    $1849 au
    Just thought other aussies on here might like to know.



    Aug 21, 2007 at 06:06 AM
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    p.20 #18 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Sums up my feeling on it.

    AND it looks, looks, like it can replace my 1D machines, might cancel my MK3 and get one of these instead, and keep my MKIIns ... more options


    Nill Toulme wrote:
    Is the 40D the long-awaited "3D?" What does it lack (other than perhaps 45-point AF)?

    Nill
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    www.toulme.net




    Aug 21, 2007 at 06:08 AM
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    p.20 #19 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    gbee wrote:
    Sums up my feeling on it.

    AND it looks, looks, like it can replace my 1D machines, might cancel my MK3 and get one of these instead, and keep my MKIIns ... more options

    [...]


    And give up the incredibly clean high ISO images of the 1D Mk III?

    I can't afford one anyway, but if that were not the case, the 1D Mk III still trounces the 40D in my book.



    Aug 21, 2007 at 06:14 AM
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    p.20 #20 · •Eos 40D Master Thread•


    Tentacle wrote:
    Ok, I'll reach for the bold tags and do a bit of yelling

    STOP TALKING ABOUT WEATHERSEALING!

    Ahh, that felt good, to do some senseless yelling. Ok, seriously though.

    This is from the "From the manufacturer" product description at the Amazon.com 40D page:

    So there you have it. It can withstand dust and moisture better than the 10/20/30D. No word about sealing at all.


    ... and no mention that there is no weather-resistance built into the buttons. I think some are just eager to reassure themselves about the value of their 1-series. People, these cameras are not in the same class. You're safe! It doesn't make sense to read things into a press release that arent't there, to make yourself feel better.



    Aug 21, 2007 at 06:16 AM
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