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p.25 #1 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


lohnman wrote:
you'll know right off quick if your camera has the same issue mine did. Most images are soft when using AI servo. You luck out every so often and get a sharp picture or 2, but from past expereince with 1 series cameras I knew I should expect much more from this camera. As you might have seen by a sample shot I took earlier in this post, using one shot would produce the kind of pictures you would expect from this camera. My first camera was a serial number over 2000, My new one is just over 14000. They
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thanks for the input i will have to go and test it now.


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Jun 14, 2007 at 07:00 PM
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p.25 #2 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


lohnman wrote:
you'll know right off quick if your camera has the same issue mine did. Most images are soft when using AI servo. You luck out every so often and get a sharp picture or 2, but from past expereince with 1 series cameras I knew I should expect much more from this camera. As you might have seen by a sample shot I took earlier in this post, using one shot would produce the kind of pictures you would expect from this camera. My first camera was a serial number over 2000, My new one is just over 14000. They
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Regarding mkIII serial numbers, do you mean over 502000 and 514000 (when you refer to "over 2000" and "just over 14000")? I bought my mkIII on May 30 and have serial number 5027xx...



Jun 14, 2007 at 09:42 PM
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p.25 #3 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


as far as the seriel numbers, yes.


Jun 15, 2007 at 06:33 AM
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p.25 #4 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


The initial images were taken using Canon’s 100-400mm f4.5-f5.6 “L” IS zoom lens coupled to Canon’s 1.4x EF Extender. The approximate focal length is presented in the image data for each image. You may move through this site and get to the original image for downloading, however, those taken in low light are over 6MB JPEG files. From time to time I will post other samples from different for your viewing; To expedite this process do not expect studio or field quality material. These are quickie shots taken between assignments, in effort to get something directly from the camera to this forum. Thus far, I am very impressed with the image quality; this camera is a significant step from all other 1D cameras. I will be matching some images to the 1Ds2 to see that comparison, to "test" the comments that the 1D3 image quality beats all prior 1D cameras including the 1Ds2. From what I've seen so far, this will not be a surprise.

My reactions for the 1D3 were drawn initially to the impressive 3" clear LCD display. If one was recently using the 1D, 1D2 or 1Ds2, and then seeing this 3" screen, the comparison is qu8ite dramatic. Since I read all the supplied documentation cover to cover, (while the battery is charging), another important feature aside from all the imaging enhancements, is that all the Custom functions are selectable directly in the camera easy to read menu system; no computer necessary, as is required with the 1D2 and N versions. Another improvement is the power system, which has been improved with a lithium-ion battery and charger system. The new charger comes with a much easier to understand signal lights which clearly show the state of the charging process for example 50%, 80%, 100%. The previous charger that came with the earlier 1D version cameras had a blinking light system which quite frankly I could never remember what the blinking meant without referring to the manual, which of course you could never find months and years later. The battery charger packaged with the 1D3 permits the batteries to be slid onto the charger rather than plugging wires into the back of each battery. The charger will except two batteries at the same time, for sequential, A then B. Another nice feature of the charger is that it accepts power from a typical A/C line sources, 100 V to 240 V, making it internationally compatible. It also accepts power from a 12 to 24 V automobile cigarette lighter socket with the use of Canon's CB-560 kit wire, optionally available, which plugs directly into a side of the same charger; this making for a very convenient arrangement for charging your batteries while you’re on your way to an event. Regarding the size and weight of the 1D3, I placed it next to a 1D2N, removed the batteries and then handled both cameras one by one; there is definitely the weight change between the two bodies, -3 ounces, -100g or so; and larger percentage of the weight change is due to the battery itself. The lithium battery is significantly lighter than the nickel metal hydride battery. Therefore when handling a 43 ounce camera and in evaluating the weight change or 48 ounce camera, it definitely is weight change, but not a huge difference. Suffice to say that when you’re over 40 ounces every ounce or three is helpful. After years of practice with the one in the series cameras menu system, I thought it would be a sizable task to get used to a new and improved button and menu system. Not so. After 20 or 30 minutes of button practice, placement and the button functions are very intuitive; The Quick answer, these changes are more intuitive, easier to select, and a big step forward.

Auto-ISO: Canon has given the Pros the ability to have the camera change the ISO, when necessary, even with A/S priority modes; in the event of A-priority for example, if the lens has opened-up to its maximum opening, there is a menu setting to have the camera step down the shutter speed to deal with the out of range conditions for proper exposure; and likewise for Shutter priority; Now Canon has added a third option, when needed the A/S combinations are preserved, and fall out of range for a given lighting situation, then you can choose AUTO-ISO which will step-up or step-down the ISO so that this condition will not disturb the A/S settings established. Previously this feature was limited to the amateur SLR cameras.

You can go to www.416-1100.com for test images and other informaiton.



Jun 15, 2007 at 02:09 PM
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p.25 #5 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


The initial images were taken using Canon’s 100-400mm f4.5-f5.6 “L” IS zoom lens coupled to Canon’s 1.4x EF Extender. The approximate focal length is presented in the image data for each image. You may move through this site and get to the original image for downloading, however, those taken in low light are over 6MB JPEG files. From time to time I will post other samples from different for your viewing; To expedite this process do not expect studio or field quality material. These are quickie shots taken between assignments, in effort to get something directly from the camera to this forum. Thus far, I am very impressed with the image quality; this camera is a significant step from all other 1D cameras. I will be matching some images to the 1Ds2 to see that comparison, to "test" the comments that the 1D3 image quality beats all prior 1D cameras including the 1Ds2. From what I've seen so far, this will not be a surprise.

My reactions for the 1D3 were drawn initially to the impressive 3" clear LCD display. If one was recently using the 1D, 1D2 or 1Ds2, and then seeing this 3" screen, the comparison is qu8ite dramatic. Since I read all the supplied documentation cover to cover, (while the battery is charging), another important feature aside from all the imaging enhancements, is that all the Custom functions are selectable directly in the camera easy to read menu system; no computer necessary, as is required with the 1D2 and N versions. Another improvement is the power system, which has been improved with a lithium-ion battery and charger system. The new charger comes with a much easier to understand signal lights which clearly show the state of the charging process for example 50%, 80%, 100%. The previous charger that came with the earlier 1D version cameras had a blinking light system which quite frankly I could never remember what the blinking meant without referring to the manual, which of course you could never find months and years later. The battery charger packaged with the 1D3 permits the batteries to be slid onto the charger rather than plugging wires into the back of each battery. The charger will except two batteries at the same time, for sequential, A then B. Another nice feature of the charger is that it accepts power from a typical A/C line sources, 100 V to 240 V, making it internationally compatible. It also accepts power from a 12 to 24 V automobile cigarette lighter socket with the use of Canon's CB-560 kit wire, optionally available, which plugs directly into a side of the same charger; this making for a very convenient arrangement for charging your batteries while you’re on your way to an event. Regarding the size and weight of the 1D3, I placed it next to a 1D2N, removed the batteries and then handled both cameras one by one; there is definitely the weight change between the two bodies, -3 ounces, -100g or so; and larger percentage of the weight change is due to the battery itself. The lithium battery is significantly lighter than the nickel metal hydride battery. Therefore when handling a 43 ounce camera and in evaluating the weight change or 48 ounce camera, it definitely is weight change, but not a huge difference. Suffice to say that when you’re over 40 ounces every ounce or three is helpful. After years of practice with the one in the series cameras menu system, I thought it would be a sizable task to get used to a new and improved button and menu system. Not so. After 20 or 30 minutes of button practice, placement and the button functions are very intuitive; The Quick answer, these changes are more intuitive, easier to select, and a big step forward.

Auto-ISO: Canon has given the Pros the ability to have the camera change the ISO, when necessary, even with A/S priority modes; in the event of A-priority for example, if the lens has opened-up to its maximum opening, there is a menu setting to have the camera step down the shutter speed to deal with the out of range conditions for proper exposure; and likewise for Shutter priority; Now Canon has added a third option, when needed the A/S combinations are preserved, and fall out of range for a given lighting situation, then you can choose AUTO-ISO which will step-up or step-down the ISO so that this condition will not disturb the A/S settings established. Previously this feature was limited to the amateur SLR cameras.

You can go to www.416-1100.com for test images and other information.



Jun 15, 2007 at 02:09 PM
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p.25 #6 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Had to send my 1D MkIII to Canon Service after only a week. The Flash Exposure Lock was triggering without user input (i.e. no buttons pushed...) This was with both a 580EX II and several 580EX flashes. Seemed to primarily occur in dark surroundings. Even if resting on a surface. Canon advised to return it, which is where it is. I have always been 100% satisfied (two occasions) with Canon repair so I trust it will not be an issue upon its return. They have always been very helpful. The camera is amazing and I miss it already. Back to the 5D for a while.


Jun 15, 2007 at 03:09 PM
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p.25 #7 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


FAU4U wrote:
...Auto-ISO: Canon has given the Pros the ability to have the camera change the ISO, when necessary, even with A/S priority modes; in the event of A-priority for example, if the lens has opened-up to its maximum opening, there is a menu setting to have the camera step down the shutter speed to deal with the out of range conditions for proper exposure; and likewise for Shutter priority; Now Canon has added a third option, when needed the A/S combinations are preserved, and fall out of range for a given lighting situation, then you can choose AUTO-ISO which will step-up
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Unfortunately, it appears from the manual that we are constrained to a maximum shutter speed limit of 1/60, which IMO renders this new feature virtually worthless.

Nill
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Jun 15, 2007 at 04:59 PM
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p.25 #8 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


I realize that this may end up being a “dumb” question, but I’m not proud, so I’m asking everyone.

I just finished setting my MK III, nothing real fancy as far as Custom functions, switched functions for the AF-On & Star button. Camera is locking Focus very quickly, tried shooting in P, AV, TV modes, but no matter what shutter speed is used or auto selected, the shutter when tripping is VERY SLOW. I mean VERY SLOW. Any help, PLEASE



Jun 16, 2007 at 09:06 AM
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p.25 #9 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


You don't happen to have the mode in the 2 sec self timer mode instead of the single or continuous exposure mode by accident, do you? Did you try the Manual mode setting both the Aperture and the Shutter speed?


Jun 16, 2007 at 09:24 AM
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p.25 #10 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


I'm in One-shot, went to Manual mode, different Aperture & Speed settings, same VERY SLOW shutter closing speed


Jun 16, 2007 at 09:30 AM
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p.25 #11 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Do you mean the camera selects a really slow shutter speed? This could mean that you have the Av/Tv safety shift enabled.


Jun 16, 2007 at 09:58 AM
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p.25 #12 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Sounds like you've got the silent mode enabled.


Jun 16, 2007 at 10:13 AM
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p.25 #13 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


...or mirror lockup. My Mark II just came back from Canon service with MLU turned on, and I thought they'd sent it back broken. ;-)

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Jun 16, 2007 at 01:04 PM
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p.25 #14 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


RD4Tile, that was it, I had it in "S" for Silent mode. Thanks so much, my heart is beating somewhat normal again

Thanks again, I sure have a lot to learn, coming from my 20D. But boy, it sure will be fun



Jun 16, 2007 at 01:11 PM
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p.25 #15 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Those of us that have shot with the 1D mkII & 1D mkIIN now how strong the AA filter is with these cameras....my question for those who own/use the 1D mkIII... is the AA filter as strong as it was in the 1D2 ?


Jun 16, 2007 at 03:49 PM
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p.25 #16 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


tom mcconville wrote:
Those of us that have shot with the 1D mkII & 1D mkIIN now how strong the AA filter is with these cameras....my question for those who own/use the 1D mkIII... is the AA filter as strong as it was in the 1D2 ?


No!

Very little, if any, sharpening is needed on the MKIII files in comparison.

Jim



Jun 16, 2007 at 04:28 PM
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p.25 #17 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Well its good to see Canon backed off of the strong filter., Thanks Jim.


Jun 16, 2007 at 04:51 PM
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My brother and I took our mark3's out for some dog jumping today and shot a few hundred shots, We used AI servo with center point focus with expanded points. We got our cameras on the same day from the same place and our serial numbers are about 6,000 apart, Mine is 5060XX, his is 5120XX. I thought it strange they are so far apart having came in the same shipment. Anyway here are some of the shots. We noticed the focus system seems real sensitive and seemed to jump from one thing to another real quick like when we tracked the dog running down the ramp to jump the person would throw a toy in the water and it would splash the tracking would jump righ to the water splash instantly. I wish I would have brought my mark2n there to test it with the same conditions. Ron & Chad

1. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633231.vKhlBn5w.NewFolder2RCC_0385.jpg

2. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633233.yCfzEjEU.NewFolder2RCC_0388.jpg

3. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633235.5DrFrJdf.NewFolder2RCC_0396.jpg

4. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633236.K93TWo2Y.NewFolder2RCC_0401.jpg

5. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633237.IXKyGa8X.NewFolder2RCC_0402.jpg

6. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633239.2z5SwNzK.NewFolder2RCC_0405.jpg

7. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633242.SsvZX4p5.NewFolder2RCC_0408.jpg

8. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633244.aPiw1Y2o.NewFolder2RCC_0410.jpg

9. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633253.d9CcBBW7.NewFolder2RCC_0440.jpg

10. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633256.xnOtFNJf.NewFolder2RCC_0447.jpg

11. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633259.B07ILwQL.NewFolder2RCC_0455.jpg

12. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80633262.NYI9At2L.NewFolder2RCC_0460.jpg

13. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635813.C1NDy9o4.CAC_0303.JPG

14. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635819.69BLUpOW.CAC_0322.JPG

15. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635794.vMyI1Rw3.CAC_0170.JPG

16. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635796.VDM6zMB0.CAC_0177.JPG

17. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635797.yo7IDQrw.CAC_0182.JPG

18. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635799.GQXDVdHF.CAC_0187.JPG

19. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635803.xlShgUZQ.CAC_0208.JPG

20. http://i.pbase.com/o6/35/679535/1/80635818.VdLw6QeW.CAC_0318.JPG

C&C always welcome



Jun 16, 2007 at 07:40 PM
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p.25 #19 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


AWESOME!!
So were you happy with how the AF worked (the results are sure great). Was it frustrating to have it jump focus to the splash so quickly...i.e., is this super fast focus making it harder to get a sharp shot of what you want or do you prefer it over how the MKII's focused?

What lens were you using?

Thanks for posting these.



Jun 16, 2007 at 08:20 PM
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p.25 #20 · •Hands-On• Eos 1D Mk III body


Nice photos. What do you mean by center focus with expanded points?


Jun 16, 2007 at 09:26 PM
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