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p.1 #1 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


I was at a birtday party the other day and there was a small lagoon right there, so I decided to go for a look and see what birds were around. I was only expecting mallards, geese, ibis etc. Much to my surprise I came across a huge nest with 4 large anhinga melanogaster (darter) fledglings and the parents. Luckily I had my camera in the car.

I returned with my 20D, 100-400L, 1.4x TC and monopod. I used the 100-400L with the 1.4x TC and used manual focus. Boy is it tough using that little viewfinder when you have 560mm of FL on a 1.6x crop camera and the birds are 25-30m (80-100ft) away and the LCD is useless for judging sharpness. Anyhow I had some good success I found when I got home. The 100-400L did much better than I thought it would, although I wish I had my 400 f/5.6L or 300 f/2.8L IS with me.

Here's the shots of the Anhingas

Fledglings, there are two more babies out of shot. I didn't have much scope for different view points as there was only a couple of vantage points and the birds were most of the time hidden by the foliage

http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/IMG_10717.jpg

here's the dad
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/IMG_10723.jpg
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/IMG_10721.jpg
here's the mum
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/IMG_10753.jpg

And here is a shot of a Great egret that landed nearby
http://www.dphoto.us/forumphotos/data/1256/IMG_10741.jpg


Here are 100% crops from various shots, all unprocessed other than
to convert RAW to jpg. As I said earlier considering these are
manual focus and it was hard to critically assess focus on the 20D,
I'm quite happy with the results.

http://www.users.on.net/~w.padden/Photos/Anhinga%20Crops/IMG_0717_Crop.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~w.padden/Photos/Anhinga%20Crops/IMG_0720_Crop.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~w.padden/Photos/Anhinga%20Crops/IMG_0721_Crop.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~w.padden/Photos/Anhinga%20Crops/IMG_0724_Crop.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~w.padden/Photos/Anhinga%20Crops/IMG_0739_Crop.jpg
http://www.users.on.net/~w.padden/Photos/Anhinga%20Crops/IMG_0756_Crop.jpg



Apr 16, 2007 at 07:37 AM
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p.1 #2 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Way to be prepared! First shot is excellent. Looks like the 100-400 held its own even with the TC.


Apr 16, 2007 at 08:07 AM
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p.1 #3 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Thanks Ryan. I noticed on the map there was a small lagoon nearby and thought I should have a camera just in case. I was actually hoping to see dragon flies.


Apr 16, 2007 at 08:35 AM
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p.1 #4 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Hi Whayne,
Those are some great shots . I wouldn't hesistate to put a 1.4X TC on my 100-400 in a pinch either.



Apr 16, 2007 at 08:38 AM
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p.1 #5 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Really disproves all those naysayers who claim the 100-400L + TC IQ is unacceptable. Great work!


Apr 16, 2007 at 09:08 AM
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p.1 #6 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Thanks Joshua and Doug.

Look I'm not making claims about how good this combo is and a 600 f/4L IS would have done much better IMO, but I think it shows that this combo can do a fine job with good technique, and one should not hesitate to try these things for themselves and not just listen to what some say. I certainly have a good copy of the 100-400 and was more than happy to try the TC. Why not experiment, that's the great thing about digital. I also took shots without the TC and the results aren't any better in this case looking at 100% crops.



Apr 16, 2007 at 09:19 AM
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p.1 #7 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


I wouldn't say the quality is unacceptable, but the 100% crops are soft. Still, for posting on the web, and after post processing the shots look great. Very rarely are 100% crops posted in galleries. The final output that you achieved is certainly very good for web display.


Apr 16, 2007 at 09:25 AM
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p.1 #8 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


The 100% crops are softish, but using focal blade they sharpen up nicely and certainly make a good A3+ print.

I must say some softness is probably my manual focus error as well as limitations of the combo; I could not see reliably if I had nailed focus on the 20D, but I hoped DOF would help me out. I have no doubt my 400 f/5.6L + 1.4x TC or 300 f/2.8L IS + stacked 1.4x TC would do better of course.



Apr 16, 2007 at 09:50 AM
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p.1 #9 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


PCMIIAW, but I think you can half-press while manually focusing and the focal point will light up red and beep when focus is attained.

Nice shots BTW.

Regards,
Jeff



Apr 16, 2007 at 01:34 PM
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p.1 #10 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Nice shots. I agree they are soft when looking at the 100% crops. Would not get a big print, but good enough for the web. Now if they are *completely* unsharpened (I mean none at all in camera or conversion) it would be interesting to see them sharpened up a bit.

Cheers



Apr 16, 2007 at 06:31 PM
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p.1 #11 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Big Hands wrote:
PCMIIAW, but I think you can half-press while manually focusing and the focal point will light up red and beep when focus is attained.

Nice shots BTW.

Regards,
Jeff



Not in this case as the lens combo is f/8 wide open, so no AF confrimation on a 20D



Gene they are unsharpened crops, I'll put up a sharpened version a bit later, pics are on another computer.



Apr 16, 2007 at 10:01 PM
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p.1 #12 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Whayne good job. This is not a prime, it is a zoom and 4x one with a 1.4 TC and no auto focus. F8 in the 20D view finder is dim. 400mm is the outer edge of performance for this lens. Thanks for reminding me to throw thae camera bag in the car more often, just in case.


Apr 17, 2007 at 08:18 PM
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p.1 #13 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Thanks Rusty. I missed some potentially wonderful shots by leaving the camera at home, even though I hate going anywhere without one. The worst case was the most AMAZING jellyfish you'll ever see and I have never seen one like it before or since and of course I had said it's only a short walk; not likely to see anything of interest.


Apr 17, 2007 at 09:55 PM
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p.1 #14 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


testing migration.


Mar 24, 2008 at 10:59 PM
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p.1 #15 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Pretty good for MF.



Mar 25, 2008 at 01:15 AM
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p.1 #16 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Well this was trawled up from the depths.

Fred I didn't shoot any migrating birds



Mar 25, 2008 at 02:51 AM
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p.1 #17 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


how do you know if you invite a friend to lunch.... lol


Mar 25, 2008 at 03:20 AM
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p.1 #18 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Well done! I wish you would post more shots in the nature section


Mar 25, 2008 at 05:50 AM
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p.1 #19 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


What TC were you using?

I use a black Tamron on my 20D and I get AF at all f/stops in good light. The basic Tamron does not report all functions to the camera body.

You might want to give that a try.



Mar 25, 2008 at 06:02 AM
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p.1 #20 · 100-400L + 1.4x TC goes birding


Rocketball, I used the Canon 1.4x TC II for this work.

I now have a 40D and the VF is much better plus for these shots live view would have been invaluable, but in general if I use a 1.4x on the 100-400L I'll use the 1D II and still have AF.



Mar 25, 2008 at 07:15 AM
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