_WHAT_ wrote:
Looks like Canon really f***** this one up. Just cheked with som of the biggest companies here in Denmark with preorders in the hundres and they get 1 ONLY 1 freaking camera.
I am seriously consindering just passing over this one. Canon can't deliver they can't give info on next chipment, how many and when.
I personally think this one BIG error from their side, at least they could admit they F***** UP and give a realistic date.
I have understood from other danish people that the first ones are reserved for pro΄s and then if there is one remaining (which is the case) it will be for the non-pro (pre-order list).
I talked with some of the pro dealers here in Denmark I bought mine at one of them and they don't get a bounch thiers hardly any coming to the country.
Well, the info from your colleagues say that for the end of this week (Thu/fFri) units are arriving from Canon warehouse at Gφteburg (Sweden). Other have received info that from 50 units coming in, only 1 is for non-pro, the others are allocated for professionals. This info comes from dealers to people that are in pre-orders waiting for the camera.
It could be that the info they are suppling are inexact, but they did call to the customers telling the news.
We shall see ...
The info from UK speaks about more units sent this week.... around 150 units, and probably a second batch in two weeks for another possible 120 units more ... Info supply by dealers that have confirmed Canon local branches have received the camera from Tokyo (but in small quantities, not enough to fulfill the pre-order lists).
The numbers of 50 to Denmark and 150 to UK I don't but anyhow such a low count on a camera like this with that many preorders is imo just not good enough and canon looks like more and more like a fool to me.
Nill's talking to himself now, and probably using sarcasm. I see a lawsuit against Canon for mental anguish.
If the camera has been officially released, then every region should have some cameras. Obviously Canon would want to fill the need in Iceland first, but after that the timing should just depend on a countries supply chain.
Maybe Canon shouldn't announce products at all. Just let them show up on the shelves, delivered by elves. That way folks wouldn't get their underpants all in a twist. Anything good and professional takes time. Ever bought a car to order? How 'bout a home? A tailored suit? BTW, I already have $3000 tied up in my deposit, as it is in the US and I am in France, and I will be happy if mine gets to me by July (first on the shops list).
That being said, my wife got us relocated to Paris in March. I am gonna ask her to investigate prospects in Reykjavνk. I want my MKIII.
Maybe Canon shouldn't announce products at all. Just let them show up on the shelves, delivered by elves. That way folks wouldn't get their underpants all in a twist. Anything good and professional takes time. Ever bought a car to order? How 'bout a home? A tailored suit?
True dat.. man take a deep breath and wait. Always said want to make God laugh... have a plan.
I just got a second email (the first was an automated status)
In reply to my question abouth whether they received any yesterday as hoped.
"No, unfortunately not. Not a single one. What's even worse: all distributors have reset the latest expected dleivery dates to "date expected unknow". We hope that this won't last long and they'll be able to communicate new dates soon. We can only assume that the manufacturer encountered some problems once more and are currently not giving out any information. We'll have to wait, I'm afraid. Sorry for the inconvenience."
I think as a protest everyone should cancel their order and switch to Nikon. To teach Canon a lesson, you should then destroy the market for L lenses by selling your lenses so cheap that people would be crazy to buy new, for example price your 300mm f2.8L IS under $1000. Teach Canon a lesson
A question, I don't know if it has been discussed but who the heck can wade through 17,000 posts looking for anything?
I'm curious if people have discussed the 1D3's shutter life vis-a-vis the dust feature. As soon as I saw the dust nonsense (be careful about what you wish for because you might just get it) I recognized that the shutter is not really good for an extra 50% as some people claim. That dust feature will eat up a portion of it and I'm wondering if it will cause reliability problems.
If you use your camera in the field daily, turn it on/off 6x a day (it could far exceed that number depending on conditions) that means you have an additional 36 shutter actuations. Again, if you do that daily, you add at least 1k actuations per month (30 x 36 = 1080), or 36k extra and useless actuations over a 3 year period. I think that may be about average since you'll probably turn it on off more times than that during a day's shooting in the field, but you won't be shooting every day in reality for most of us.
The bottom line is that "300k" just became 264k. An improvement? Absolutely, but not what people are really expecting. Anybody have thoughts or opinions on the shutter life and the "cleaner"?
Why would you turn it off at all before you put it to bed at night? Anyway, I'm pretty sure the auto dust shake is defeatable. Turn it off if you want your full measure of 300k frames.
Further thought... are you sure the dust thing triggers the shutter? It doesn't on my 400D.
Nill Toulme wrote:
Why would you turn it off at all before you put it to bed at night? Anyway, I'm pretty sure the auto dust shake is defeatable. Turn it off if you want your full measure of 300k frames.
Further thought... are you sure the dust thing triggers the shutter? It doesn't on my 400D.
Nill
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The white paper mentions that the dust cleaning cocks the shutter three times to prevent dust from settling on the shutter.
But it's right after the manual sensor cleaning description, which is 4 seconds long, rather than 3.5 seconds at startup. I think, and we won't know until someone has one long enough to check, that the automatic mode doesn't use the shutter but the manual cleaning does.
Evidently the system on the 1D3 triggers the shutter 3 times upon start up and another 3 times upon shut down as part of the process. One can, via the CF's, turn it off completely and manually trigger it only when needed or not at all. It sounds like a slightly different system then the 400d. I'm thinking about shutting it off until it's needed but am also wondering if the system will be effctive if not used constantly. This will be one of those things where mass user feedback probably will end up dictating what the best long term procedure will be.
Muchas gracias for those precious informations. May I ask you if you have
any news regarding Canon Germany and German retailers, please?
Regards.
Hi, Sorry but I was looking at different forums & places and I couldn΄t gather any info from Germany yet, just waiting to somebody else in the pre-order list of a German dealer is called or e-mailed by the dealer with info.
Even the web pages of the two or three web dealers where I know mostly of you has put the orders also has no info yet available about shipment. But if UK & Denmark has deliveries announced this week, Germany must be not so far. Anyway, the quantities are very low and professionals has priority; so, you must be patient ....
I have read somewhere (I don΄t remember now) that there is a rumor in Australia about the newspapers has priority to receive the cameras for their photojournalists first than other people ...really if you think about it and you are a dealer, and you have a big order from your best local newspaper (and probably one of your best customers by the money spends in you), and you receive a limited number of cameras.... who is going to receive them ?
