Jeff wrote:
Now there's a huge assumption! I'm surprised at how little speculation there is about the potential demise of the Ds line. Based upon this announcement, I'm tending toward the possibility that the 1Ds Mk II was the last of its breed, and what comes next will be completely new. It just doesn't make sense that the 1D MkII N got a makeover and the 1Ds Mk II didn't. I'm guessing there's more to come, and it won't be in the form of a Ds...
I view that as a win/win. If Canon simply takes a 22MP FF sensor and puts it into the 1DIII body with 5 FPS, then I think a majority would find that to be an appealing body. Of course there will be the usual factions that want no more MP but this or that, and of course the ubiquitous complaints about size, but in general I think a lot of people would be happy. On the other hand if they come out with something completely new like a Foveon style sensor, or some other technology not in current models, that would probably be equally as appealing. As far as no 1DsII N, my deduction is that they are planning to announce whatever it is that replaces the current Ds model in the fall, so an N model to get them by for 6 months probably wouldn't even recoup the minor changes to the production line.
Along those same lines, I haven't seen a 1DsII that has anywhere near a recent date code, so I'm wondering if they are done with production and just relying on existing stock given the relatively slow rate at which the Ds sells now. If the line has been retooled for the new 1DIII to meet the assuredly large early demand, then it would make sense the Ds II production is done for good.
wtlloyd wrote:
I am really impressed Canon address in the white paper that they made sure the portrait shutter release has the same movement as the main shutter release - they really "got" what people were asking most for, even things that must have seemed trivial to them.
The only thing they forgot from the list I sent them is the histogram overlay instead of small pic, small histogram. Fortunately on a 3" screen the small pic should be about 1.4", which isn't much smaller than the full display on earlier Canon's with the 1.8" display.
Brutus_B wrote:
Glad you like your 30D but what does that have to do with 1D mkIII other than let us know that you won't be buying one, which no offense, but I don't think anyone was waiting anxiously to hear if you were planning to buy one or not
Though since we are sharing, I've already got a preorder placed. Not that anyone cares about me either =P
Hammerli wrote:
I view that as a win/win. If Canon simply takes a 22MP FF sensor and puts it into the 1DIII body with 5 FPS, then I think a majority would find that to be an appealing body. Of course there will be the usual factions that want no more MP but this or that, and of course the ubiquitous complaints about size, but in general I think a lot of people would be happy.
I guess this actually belongs to the Post-PMA thread, but since Jeff himself started the Ds line speculation here, let's speculate here:
- 22 MP FF sensor - pixel size wise Canon could aim even higher, but as I have read from here and there, this is the current understanding of their next step. Feels like a reasonable compromise between MP addition /noise control /lens resolution requirements
- body might be smaller, either with 1D3's new smaller battery, or 1 or 2 BP511 sized batteries. There is not necessarily such compelling reason for high power as in 1D3, if there is no equivalent high speed crop mode - unless there is again 2 Digic III processors or something else new and power hungry
- obvious sounding carry-overs from 1D3: live preview, new AF sensor, AF micro adjustment, new control button logic & placement
- but definitely not a non-compatible lens mount: Isn't the EOS mount still one of the most technically advanced ones today?
My guess for the next 1DsMkIII intro will be later this year. If I remember correctly, the 1DMkII was introduced early in its 1st year, then in the fall, the 1DsMkII was announced. Does anybody know the exact dates? It would not surprise me to see Canon follow the same pattern with the 1DsMkIII if and when there will be one. I'm hoping there will be a 1DsMkIII this year, as I have my sights set on getting it for an Antarctica trip next January. Otherwise I'll have to settle for a 1DsMkII.
The G7 is 10 MP with Digic III. Does anybody know if the 1D3 has the facial detection of the new compacts when it's in live preview mode? That's the first autofocus system that I've actually liked - I mostly shoot people in groups.
I looked at the pics on the website and the overall shape looks about the same, but I wonder if the battery compartment is smaller? I would hate to buy more brackets.
ward1066 wrote:
Does anybody know if current mark2 RRS L brackets, kirk plates etc. will work on the new model?
I seriously doubt it due to the redesigned body. Plus, there's a new problem with the vertical part of the L-bracket blocking the WFT-E2a port on the side of the camera.
FYI : I ordered a 1DIII and was told probably end of March. I've ordered new release gear from this supplier, and with Canon he's always been accurate on the date.
Premium over list is possible. The pent-up demand for this camera is particularly strong due to pro/company buyers looking for multiple units. With the 1DII durability, I'm sure many have been pushed past the normal replacement point while waiting for the new model.
Don Grall wrote:
My guess for the next 1DsMkIII intro will be later this year. If I remember correctly, the 1DMkII was introduced early in its 1st year, then in the fall, the 1DsMkII was announced. Does anybody know the exact dates? It would not surprise me to see Canon follow the same pattern with the 1DsMkIII if and when there will be one. I'm hoping there will be a 1DsMkIII this year, as I have my sights set on getting it for an Antarctica trip next January. Otherwise I'll have to settle for a 1DsMkII.
My memory of the 1DsII and the 5D were announced for release in Oct. with the very first cameras arriving the last week of sept.
Adrian Warren wrote:
Incidentally, my comments about the image quality of the samples on Canon's site a few pages back were more along the lines of "why didn't Canon look at them @ 100% themselves before posting them".
I wanted to know whether anyone else thought the icescape looked soft on the left, or whether it was just me. I wasn't necessarily having a go at the image quality of the camera, more that of the samples - I felt that for such a big/important release they could/should have been far better at 100%.
The blue ice shot runs out of dof on the left. But if they think the shot is a good one to demonstrate capabilities, why does that matter? I don't know why they posted the eagle, however. That shot close framed and 'nailed' with the 1DII would show a lot more detail. Are they demonstrating that the new camera has less resolution?
The sport shots are great.
I see a change in edges with the new camera. I think shots from this camera will res up very well.
dcmiller wrote:
I don't know why they posted the eagle, however. That shot close framed and 'nailed' with the 1DII would show a lot more detail. Are they demonstrating that the new camera has less resolution?
The eagle shot looks like it suffers from some motion blur, to me.
Also, I think it's a bit underexposed, and could use a bit of work to bring out some of the shadow detail.
how do you get 16mm equivalent on this camera? the only thing i can come up with is the sigma 12-24. and the giant problem is it won't accept front filters. that is the ONLY thing keeping me away from jumping on board. and it's what kept me off the 1dMkII as well. i would really LOVE a 1 series body, but the 1DSmkII is too expensive and the 1DSMkI seems too outdated. sigh. if anyone has a mark II and is shooting ultrawide with it, i'd love to know how it's accomplished. canon should have made the new 16-35 a 12-24 instead....
dcmiller wrote:
Premium over list is possible. The pent-up demand for this camera is particularly strong due to pro/company buyers looking for multiple units.
I had one dealer quote me $4299 (which is $300 over MSRP).
I ordered my 1D-II's from them, and they were actually about $300 UNDER the MAP. And this was when they first came out.
I don't know if Canon gave them the wrong price, or if they misunderstood, or if I misunderstood, or if they're out to get a premium now. I guess I'll know more in the future. I've also put myself on another 2 lists, just in case. One said he expected the price to be at MAP or perhaps a bit less.
Just got done reading the paper. It is great that Canon took the time to document all of these features. It saves us a ton of posts here.
Many features put a smile on my face (auto-ISO, new UI, smaller battery, etc., etc.). But where on earth is a single button for MLU? They went as far as putting an indicator on the LCD but no way to turn this thing on and off with one click? My menu will make it a bit easier to get to but really, how could Canon listen to its customers on so many issues and not this one?
