khurram1 said: when I pre-ordered mine i was told it would probably be end of march, start of April, but ever since Canon recinded on the SUGGESTED price
When I pre-ordered mine, I was told that it would cost C$4500-$4800 and it would be available in the beginning of April. Now, I hear that "the price went up" but it is not fixed yet. I was also told to call again this Friday to get the price. Canon is definitely playing a game. By the way, they had to reorder with a different order number.
One thing I do not understand from Canon actually is the price game. I think a company like Canon has fixed the price some time ago, but they are letting play to see if the market can absorb or accept a higher price !? .
With respect to the delivery date, there are two versions, but I think the most credible one is that it is going to be released at last May as Canon Japan has stated lastly in their Web Page (B&H, also). I believe that the last time firmware changes are the guilty of this situation. Canon wants to finish as much as they can with the last time firmware fix´s. I have read the case in UK where they have 5 units of the 1D MkIII for testing, each one running a different firmware version !!
Juan55 wrote:
One thing I do not understand from Canon actually is the price game. I think a company like Canon has fixed the price some time ago, but they are letting play to see if the market can absorb or accept a higher price !? .
SNIP
Two things come into play here, I think - one is the currency exchange rate, as the dollar has been heading south for a while- not sure if it still is.
The other thing is that the choice may be between rationing by price or having huge queues forming - I think they have hit the sweet spot of the upgrade cycle and porobably have massive orders from the big players to take care of - they are doubtless cranking out all the cameras they can at the moment, and it looks like after they have fixed their prices to the dealers they will let them price according to demand
Well, I ordered mine at £2,499 two days after the announcement and the price hasn't changed. Seems that UK dealers have been much more consistent with the pricing on this model (thus far) than those abroad.
anybody lucky enough to have got their greasy mits on to a 1D3 yet.
If so please post your impressions of it and pic quality. I don't think even Adobe have yet updated PS to convert the RAW files yet so you'll probably be stuck with the Canon Software (unfortunately not very good if the past is anything to go by).
However once you've converted the RAW to TIFF or whatever you can then of course use PS as normal .
Particularly interested if the dynamic range has also improved compared with the 1D2.
Very very interested in ID2 owners whove tried the 1D3.
Deliveries over here are expected in April (albeit at a higher price than in the US. About par for the course in the UK).
Cheers
-K
Edited by Jeff on Mar 28, 2007 at 07:49 AM GMT (Reason: Merged)
Hi there -- hopefully the canon software will be better this time. I remember from my old D60 days the horrors of ZOOMBROWSER etc.
The problem with using multiple software packages is that it does tend to slow workflow down --especially after a busy Sports / PJ shoot where you've got a lot of images to sort --mind you these are often taken in as jpegs.
The extra 2 bits in the image should be interesting to see if there is a difference in quality in the final output. PS will have to incorporate that in it's next upgrade / cs3 upgrade.
I can't wait to get my hands on a 1D3 --I loved the 1D2 but the 1D3 seems just TOO GOOD to pass up on.
Damon Spencer wrote:
Well, I ordered mine at £2,499 two days after the announcement and the price hasn't changed. Seems that UK dealers have been much more consistent with the pricing on this model (thus far) than those abroad.
Sounds to me as though it was currency volatility causing the problems in some areas like the states - presumably the pound/yen rate is more stable - but I am far too lazy to check!
Kyle Yates wrote:
The extra 2 bits in the image should be interesting to see if there is a difference in quality in the final output. PS will have to incorporate that in it's next upgrade / cs3 upgrade.
Photoshop already handles 16-bit images...more depth than the 1D Mark III produces. The only thing that's needed is a new ACR to handle the conversion of RAW images.
Kyle, this is a little off topic, but since you brought it up...
I'm not sure I follow your complaints with the Canon software as it relates to work flow. In your original post you talk about converting RAW files and not liking the Canon software for that. Then in your most recent post you seem to indicate that you are "often" shooting JPEGs and the Canon software is slowing down your work flow.
IMO, the Canon software for processing RAW files (DPP) is pretty good and rather efficient even for PJ work. While I prefer to shoot JPEG when doing PJ (deadline) work, I don't believe I'm really slowed down much by shooting and converting RAW files in a timely manner. Everything gets ingested into Photo Mechanic, then I tag those files I might want to process. Those RAW files then get copied into a separate folder and that's the folder I open in DPP to batch process the RAW files and convert them to JPEG. Once that's done, the JPEGs are opened in PS for final processing.
When shooting JPEG, however, I don't even use DPP any any step in the process. Everything first gets ingested into Photo Mechanic, and once I've found the images I need they go straight to PS for processing.
In either of those work flow situations ZoomBrowser doesn't even come into the equation. In fact, I've probably opened that software twice in the last year and it's never played into my work flow for PJ-type work.
IMO, if you're using DPP or any other Canon software to work with JPEGs, it seems as though your work flow might need to be adjusted a bit to make things run a little more smoothly.
Having said that, I don't recall reading any of the preliminary reviews of the Mk3 that don't say it's a very good camera and improved in nearly every area.
I talked to a friend yesterday who got a hands-on with the Mark III at the DWF show going on in Vegas right now. He seemed to think the images appeared rather low in contrast and undersaturated. Certainly nothing that could not be corrected quickly in the LAB mode in PhotoShop, but I'm thinking this is perhaps the price they are paying for gaining greater dynamic range - especially for the highlights. I don't think this is any deal breaker, but just something to take into account during your workflow.
Forrest Egan wrote:
Photoshop already handles 16-bit images...more depth than the 1D Mark III produces. The only thing that's needed is a new ACR to handle the conversion of RAW images.
PS for now can handle the 1D III, but it's actually only a 15 bit app, not 16 bit. What happens when true 16 bit camera are released. maybe PS will eventually become fully 32bit floating point based rather than integer based. Ultimately floating point is the way to go and the new processors are certainly getting fast enough for full single precision image editing. It would lead to much less destructive editing.
This is totally off-topic but since you guys bring up ACR..anyone see all the new CS3 suite that just got leaked! Got some interesting new features in Photoshop.
Nowhere Man wrote:
This is totally off-topic but since you guys bring up ACR..anyone see all the new CS3 suite that just got leaked! Got some interesting new features in Photoshop.
