My comment on the 3200 setting is that it show the difference between true ISO 3200 and 'H'. The 1DIIn image looks 'crispy' as if it had noise reduction applied that improves edge contrast. At a quick glance the, 1DIIn image is sharper to me. But the 1DIII image shows more true detail and is a more natural unsharpened image.
What do you see?
Please dont' get me wrong, I too am excited about the 1D3 and will get one when the dust settles. On my 22" monitor, I see a clearly sharper image from the N with more detail and about 1 stop poorer ISO performance than the D3. Exif data show the N has no noise reduction applied and I am comparing it to the no NR samples of the 1D3. I have both Noise Ninja and Neat Image and would love a link to some other noise reduction program that reduces noise while improving edge detail. After playing with some noise reduction on the N images, I can get results that are remarkably close to the 1D3 (detail and noise). Again, I'm gonna wait on drawing any conlcusions until I can get some side by side raw comparisons.
Please dont' get me wrong, I too am excited about the 1D3 and will get one when the dust settles. On my 22" monitor, I see a clearly sharper image from the N with more detail and about 1 stop poorer ISO performance than the D3. Exif data show the N has no noise reduction applied and I am comparing it to the no NR samples of the 1D3. I have both Noise Ninja and Neat Image and would love a link to some other noise reduction program that reduces noise while improving edge detail. After playing with some noise reduction on the N images, I can get results that are remarkably close to the 1D3 (detail and noise). Again, I'm gonna wait on drawing any conlcusions until I can get some side by side raw comparisons....Show more →
Try Noiseware by Imagenomic. I prefer it to the others.
fourfa wrote:
or host it at sendspace.com or the like, if the bandwidth is killing you
As an aside:
I was just discussing that with some co-workers today. We might get together and share a 1U box, or I might just try 1and1. It was highly recommended. Right now we all get free co-lo as an employee benefit, but bandwidth is capped and we share it, so it wouldn't have been fair to the others (within minutes, I was saturating the uplink).
Thanks for mentioning sendspace. Maybe I'll have a look at them too.
You're welcome. It's interesting to see the traffic such a link creates... linked a 200 kb
file here a couple of days ago which generated roughly a gig of traffic. we'll see what this big file does
I'll host it until my provider gives me a call...
I think it really worth it's, makes me want the 1D3 even more, although I'm actually on the 5D2 band wagon.
Philippe Arnez wrote:
You're welcome. It's interesting to see the traffic such a link creates... linked a 200 kb
file here a couple of days ago which generated roughly a gig of traffic. we'll see what this big file does
I'll host it until my provider gives me a call...
I think it really worth it's, makes me want the 1D3 even more, although I'm actually on the 5D2 band wagon.
I'm on the 5D MkII bandwagon as well, so I can get a 5D
I'm curious to see the real world performance ISO 6400, but if it is close to this... This camera will be snatched up by tons of photo journalists and sport shooters. I also wonder if this new performance increase will be seen in the next 5d, and if we can expect any improvements in the 40d (I know the advantage of the 1d3 is the larger photosites)
I'll be curious to see the performance of the new "ff" nikon, if it ever comes out.
rocketpop wrote:
I'm curious to see the real world performance ISO 6400, but if it is close to this... This camera will be snatched up by tons of photo journalists and sport shooters. I also wonder if this new performance increase will be seen in the next 5d, and if we can expect any improvements in the 40d (I know the advantage of the 1d3 is the larger photosites)
I'll be curious to see the performance of the new "ff" nikon, if it ever comes out.
1D3-like improvements in the 5D (MkII) and "40D" are inevitable. Count on it.
The file looks great, but I really am waiting for a real world test. They shot the image at f8 1/800 iso 6400--thats quite a bit of light (could have shot at 1/800 f2.8 at iso 800, better than almost any stadium lighting I have ever expierienced) so I am a little skeptical of set up shots like these. I remember when the 20d came out there were a lot of shots of people raving about high iso performance that were out shooting in broad daylight at iso 1600. The 20d has great noise performance, don't get me wrong, but that is not a siuation where you really need iso 1600 often. I want to see a 3200/6400 shot out of a crappy high school gym or from a poorly lit concert and see how the shadows hold up then. Looks impressive, but just not a situation I would set up (with that much light) to really see how the camera handles.
This is my 1st impressions of the 1D MKIII based on the given specs at their Japanese site. I am sold on the fact that it can do ISO 6400, 10 FPS, Li-on battery pack, lighter weight, longer battery life, higher dynamic range, live view, bigger buffer, and the dust shaker. My only gripe is that I will have to relearn the ENTIRE menu & button system again. I have been using the 1 series camera since the 3 and the 1N, where we don't have the labels and had to remember them by heart. I was so used to the original menu & button layout of the 1D (original, MKII, MKII N) that I can change settings without even taking my eyes off the viewfinder, and I also see that they FINALLY have a dedicated MLU button. Looks like the menu to get to the custom functions will be a real pain. as I switch between CFn. 4, 12, & 15 a lot. Now that they have it changed by integrating the personal functions (pretty much useless after it's set IMO) into CFn. and integrating it into the CFn.menus, it will cause more confusion since I have the original 21 CFn. remembered by heart. I think Canon should have left those alone instead of burying them into the new & useless 4 submenus. The mic button has been moved in place of the WB button, and looks like the WB settings is also buried in the menus now. With this new button layout, have a feeling that some people will have a lot of "accidental" ISO & drive settings due to the new button layout. I think a lot of other pros who uses the mic/protect button will be annoyed when they are using a MKII N & MKIII as their main & backup cameras. I hope that Canon remedies this problem by allowing us to swap the functions of the buttons..... Also the 3" screen is an added bonus but it also made the back a lot more weaker & more vulnerable to breakage from impact. As a long time user of the 1 series, I've never find the need to "chimp" since the 1 series' AF is dead-on. I've rarely use the screen except for changing certain settings like custom WB or a CFn. IMO 2.5" is more than enough, and the button layout could have been kept the same. The transition from the 1V to the 1D was seamless, I was up & running within minutes. With this change, I have a feeling that I'll be cursing & swearing at the new changes on this camera for about a week or two before I'll be comfortable and get used to the controls. Well that's my two cents, I hope that I don't get flamed for this........
