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p.23 #1 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Can this really be a production model? Seems to good to be true (as is usual for ebay) since Canon UK isn't predicting stock to arrive until mid late April, in the US it seems even longer, some seem to be predicting May.



Feb 28, 2007 at 06:47 AM
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p.23 #2 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Alan F wrote:
Ebay uk has a mk 3 already, will they deliver at the end of the auction i wonder
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Brand-New-EOS-1D-Mark-III-Last-model-From-Canon_W0QQitemZ140090976117QQihZ004QQcategoryZ31388QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Even if this is genuine , which looks doubtful , by the time you've added in import duty + VAT + Customs clearance fee and postage the cost is several hundred pounds more than the current UK-quoted price .

Add in the fact that the warranty is NOT valid in the UK and you'ld have to return the camera to Japan if anything goes wrong ; stear clear of this ' bargain ' !



Feb 28, 2007 at 06:59 AM
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p.23 #3 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I'm proppably missing something, but please is it possible to achive ultrawide degrees on 1D MK III ? I mean like 16-17mm in 35mm EQ ? Widest FF lens from Canon is 16-35 what is only 21mm EQ on wide end. Is there anything else please ? Thanks


Feb 28, 2007 at 07:19 AM
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execom99 wrote:
I'm proppably missing something, but please is it possible to achive ultrawide degrees on 1D MK III ? I mean like 16-17mm in 35mm EQ ? Widest FF lens from Canon is 16-35 what is only 21mm EQ on wide end. Is there anything else please ? Thanks


Sigma 12-24 would give you 16mm in 35 mm terms.



Feb 28, 2007 at 07:50 AM
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p.23 #5 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Richard Steer wrote:
All three of those links are selling the 1D2, not the 1D3.

Richard


Great catch Richard. Must have been hallucinating..




Feb 28, 2007 at 08:28 AM
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p.23 #6 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


dgeesaman wrote:

Sorry to rain on the preorder party - but in any reviews, has anyone compared the high ISO shots vs. the 1D2N? The ISO 6400 shots on imaging-resource were really clean - but I'd like to see a 3200 vs a 3200. Or some estimation of the actual number of stops improvement.

you can go here and see/download comparisons with the 1D3

http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

same 1D2N still life images here:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DN/E1DNA7.HTM

IMO, the D3 show about 1 stop improvement in noise but at the expense of some detail. It looks like ISO 3200 on the D3 is about as noisy as the D2N at 1600, but the N pics are sharper. Apply a little Neat Image and the gap narrows. Need to see some raw comparisons before drawing any conclusions.

Edited by csd2020 on Feb 28, 2007 at 09:10 AM GMT



Feb 28, 2007 at 09:03 AM
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p.23 #7 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


csd2020 where did you find the N on the Imaging Resource comparison page?


Feb 28, 2007 at 09:08 AM
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p.23 #8 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


I think the ISO 6400 looks pretty similar to the ISO 3200 of the N. There is some color noise showing up in the 6400.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DMK3/FULLRES/E1DMK3hSLI6400.HTM

heres the N 3200 again, The 1d3 might actually look a bit better?

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DN/FULLRES/E1DNhSLI3200.HTM



Feb 28, 2007 at 10:15 AM
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p.23 #9 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


In dpreview forum is this sample of the 1D MkIII at 6400 iso all I can say is WOW!!
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=22237580 or you can go direct to:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/... .../E1DMK3/FULLRES/E1DMK3hSLI6400NR.HTM




Feb 28, 2007 at 10:20 AM
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p.23 #10 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


WOW!!!!!


Feb 28, 2007 at 10:28 AM
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p.23 #11 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


that is with NR on, here is with it off

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DMK3/FULLRES/E1DMK3hSLI6400.HTM



Feb 28, 2007 at 10:31 AM
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p.23 #12 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


How is selling a photographer 2 bodies instead of 3 good for Canon?

This is the scenario I put:

2 x body A @ $6000 = $12000
3 x bodies A, B @ $3000 x 2 + $6000 = $12000

You're the manufacturer. Which is preferable? Think carefully - you don't want to fail 'business 101'... and well done, you guessed it: selling 2 of one type of body can be done much more cheaply than selling 3 of two types of body. Step 3: profit. But like I said, I was playing devil's advocate... :)



Feb 28, 2007 at 10:42 AM
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p.23 #13 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


And here's what Neat Image can do with the non-NR version:

http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/1D3/index.html



Feb 28, 2007 at 11:00 AM
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p.23 #14 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Paul: That is indeed stunning output.


Feb 28, 2007 at 11:04 AM
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p.23 #15 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Thanks for posting this!

Very impressive. I'd like to see a test showing how much of a difference ISO6400 makes to high-frequency details, cause that's where I notice the 5D's noise most at ISO3200. But even still, the absolute noise level is VERY reasonable here. Should be plenty good enough for 8x10's.

I also have to wonder what ISO3200 looks like? It seems most Canon DSLRs show a ton more noise at their highest ISO setting than they do at their second-highest setting. If ISO6400 looks only moderately noisier than ISO3200 on the 5D, does this mean the 1DMk3 might have an ISO3200 that's usable even for large prints?

I'm trying to decide whether to buy a 1D and/or a 70-200 right now... this test makes me wonder if I'd be better off buying a 1DMk2 + 70-200/2.8IS or a 1DMk3 + 70-200/4IS. Hopefully Canon puts some R&D into AF sensors in the future, and eventually gives us high-precision AF at f/4 or slower.



Feb 28, 2007 at 11:06 AM
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p.23 #16 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Not bad!
I can't wait to see some real world shots rather then controlled lab test shots.



Feb 28, 2007 at 11:10 AM
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p.23 #17 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


OK everyone, I'm using a ton of bandwidth on that image, so 5 more minutes and I'm taking it down. Sorry.


Feb 28, 2007 at 11:18 AM
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p.23 #18 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


Alistair101 wrote:
Can this really be a production model? Seems to good to be true (as is usual for ebay) since Canon UK isn't predicting stock to arrive until mid late April, in the US it seems even longer, some seem to be predicting May.


I was told by my dealer that delivery was probable at the end of march. In the past, I received two other new release bodies from him a few days before the announced month of availability.
I expect very soon that hundreds of production cameras will be in the hands of significant end-users and reviewers.The "normal channel" production cameras may have even been shipped by container weeks ago. Although I expect early production gear is shipped by air freight until the channel begins to fill up.



Feb 28, 2007 at 11:31 AM
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p.23 #19 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


artistamacabro wrote:
I don't know if this has been posted yet ( I don't have time to read all 50 pages at the moment) but here's a nice hands-on review complete with videos.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E1DMK3/E1DMK3A.HTM

Kind regards



That ISO 1600 sample is my first 'wow' comparison for this camera. A few areas show much better tonality in the new camera. Look at how the reflected light on the pepper oil bottle is handled by both cameras.



Feb 28, 2007 at 11:40 AM
Alistair Watson
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p.23 #20 · •1D Mk III 'Master' Thread •


To be honest, ISO 6400 on the 1D3 looks more usable than iso 1600 on the 1D2N. I would love to see a direct comparison between the 2, shot for shot.



Feb 28, 2007 at 11:43 AM
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